SNW prop auction

[Ronald Held]

Maybe the SNW props will be auctioned off separately?
Doubt Year One will happen, although a snowball's chance will recreate the sets to look like those of WNBHGB.

 

[Nerys Myk]

So in the current lot, they cannot even be bothered to check how Uhura's name is spelled.

Wouldn't be the first time.

 

[Firebird]

Thankfully TOS will now be protected.

I didn't realize a television show was eligible for the Endangered Species Act.

 

[TRON JA307020]

I didn't realize a television show was eligible for the Endangered Species Act.

You didn't?

 

[fireproof78]

I didn't realize a television show was eligible for the Endangered Species Act.

Yes, we must take steps to preserve TOS at all costs. Every episode of newer Trek that gets greenlit and episode of TOS gets eliminated. That's just science!

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Yes, we must take steps to preserve TOS at all costs. Every episode of newer Trek that gets greenlit and episode of TOS gets eliminated. That's just science!

I know this is retreading an old conversation I don't want to repeat, but if they start greenlighting episodes that overlap the time period of TOS in a way where the two series cannot be reconciled, then only one series can have happened. If future episodes are made with the assumption that the newer episodes are the correct series of events, then TOS will have been severed from the overall Star Trek universe.

It's like when you look at reading orders for comics, and they say 'Read this 2006 miniseries instead of the original 1963 comic arc, as it replaces it in continuity'. You could still read the old story if you want, but it's not relevant any more. They're all imaginary stories, but that one just got a little more imaginary.

 

[fireproof78]

I know this is retreading an old conversation I don't want to repeat, but if they start greenlighting episodes that overlap the time period of TOS in a way where the two series cannot be reconciled, then only one series can have happened. If future episodes are made with the assumption that the newer episodes are the correct series of events, then TOS will have been severed from the overall Star Trek universe.

It's like when you look at reading orders for comics, and they say 'Read this 2006 miniseries instead of the original 1963 comic arc, as it replaces it in continuity'. You could still read the old story if you want, but it's not relevant any more. They're all imaginary stories, but that one just got a little more imaginary.

I don't share this at all. TOS exists, period. Future stories don't change that.

It's also a rather strange attitude to take that only one could happen in a franchise with time travel, alternate timelines, and parallel timelines. Continuity is not a black and white proposition.

I don't assume one is more correct than the other.

 

[Tuskin38]

, then TOS will have been severed from the overall Star Trek universe.

Nope. Not how that works.

 

[Noname Given]

No Year One, I presume.

As much as I would want and enjoy it - yeah, there was no chance of it ever happening.

If the new suits still wanted to continue with current Kurtzman/Akiva streaming Trek, they would have given SNW S5 a full 10 episodes and green lit a SNW S6.

If/When the merger goes through, I don't think we'll see Star Trek in any form of streaming. They'll kep/license the existing streaming Trek they have to other streaming platforms and shift back to trying Star Trek related feature films.

Yes, Star Trek IS an important IP for Paramount; but they're going to leverage what they've already produced for streaming - and just take it back to feature films.

 

[TRON JA307020]

I don't share this at all. TOS exists, period. Future stories don't change that.

It's also a rather strange attitude to take that only one could happen in a franchise with time travel, alternate timelines, and parallel timelines. Continuity is not a black and white proposition.

I don't assume one is more correct than the other.

Once they intermingled the shows it would have cropped up more canon issues and just wouldn't fit. It's best this way.

 

[Dukhat]

If the new suits still wanted to continue with current Kurtzman/Akiva streaming Trek, they would have given SNW S5 a full 10 episodes and green lit a SNW S6.

This. It amazes me how fans can't seem to grasp this simple logic that there would be no point in making 'Year One' if the studio had no interest in continuing to produce SNW. Of course, it didn't help that Goldsman pulled a Matalas and gave fans false hope that this would actually happen if they were loud enough.

 

[Noname Given]

This. It amazes me how fans can't seem to grasp this simple logic that there would be no point in making 'Year One' if the studio had no interest in continuing to produce SNW. Of course, it didn't help that Goldsman pulled a Matalas and gave fans false hope that this would actually happen if they were loud enough.

How is stating: "We pitched the idea to Paramount..." giving false hope?

He only said h pitched it and was awaiting a reply.

Hell, JMS pitched a Star Trek idea to Paramount before JJ Abrams got his green light in 2007.

Pitches happen all the time and are talked about all the time. There was no 'false hope' here.

Hell, I'm a big supporter on SNW and I read that they pitched 'Kirk: Year One'.

I didn't have any 'false hope'. Hell, if you read my post on the subject, I state:

1) I'd love it if it got green lit.

2) There is no chance it will happen.

 

[Dukhat]

How is stating: "We pitched the idea to Paramount..." giving false hope?

I made that clear right in my post. I mean, I quoted what you said:

If the new suits still wanted to continue with current Kurtzman/Akiva streaming Trek, they would have given SNW S5 a full 10 episodes and green lit a SNW S6.

 

[Noname Given]

I made that clear right in my post. I mean, I quoted what you said:

But again, saying it was Pitched didn't give anyone false hope.

Akiva never Said, "...and we're sure it'll get greenlit soon" in any statement he made.

As for asking for fans to show support online, everyone says that now and fans will start a petition on their own anyway.

It's the nature of media these days.

 

[Dukhat]

But again, saying it was Pitched didn't give anyone false hope.

It was never pitched.

"In July, Akiva Goldsman told TrekMovie 'when the time comes, we will certainly try' to pitch Star Trek: Year One. Later that month at SDCC (after the Skydance deal had been approved), he told THR they would 'beg and borrow when Skydance comes in' for a chance to make Year One. He also solicited the Comic-Con crowd in Hall H to let Skydance know they want the show.

TrekMovie spoke to Goldsman for the Strange New Worlds season 3 finale and asked if they have had a chance to speak to the new management team (which includes a Star Trek fan). The executive producer revealed they are still waiting for their moment:

“I think that—as I say, we’re renters, right?—and so the new owners of the house just took possession. So I don’t know. I think Year One’s a dream. And it’s a good dream, and it’s a real dream. And we would do it in a heartbeat. And right now, we know we promise to end Strange New Worlds well, so that’s what we’re doing. And if, for some reason, that dream is shared by the folks at Skydance and Paramount, that would be amazing. But we’re not relying on it. We’re ending the show because we promise to end the show in a way that is complete.”

Akiva never Said, "...and we're sure it'll get greenlit soon" in any statement he made.

What he said was:

“We started having this idea of those great lost years that exist in all of our head canon and ancillary canon, but had never really gotten much of a chance to be on screen. So what we’ve tried to do is try to reach back to Pike’s Enterprise and instill in it the kind of storytelling values we have today, and bring us right up to Kirk’s first day on the job. And that is our hope, and that is our plan. And we plan to get you there… and if you like us enough, you just write ‘Dear Skydance and Paramount, we know you still have the sets. Don’t you want to make Star Trek: Year One?'”

(emphasis mine)

So basically telling fans to write to Skydance and Paramount about wanting the show (when that is not remotely how things get greenlit) is not giving fans false hope to you?

 

[fireproof78]

No, because fans create false hope all on their own. Look at Legacy.

 

[Dukhat]

No, because fans create false hope all on their own. Look at Legacy.

No they don't. The fans didn't come up with the idea for Legacy. Matalas did.

 

[fireproof78]

No they don't. The fans didn't come up with the idea for Legacy. Matalas did.

I saw pitches for a Seven show even before I saw Matalas pitch. Same for a Romulan War show, various other fan ideas. It doesn't take a production staff member to create it.

 

[Dukhat]

I saw pitches for a Seven show even before I saw Matalas pitch. Same for a Romulan War show, various other fan ideas. It doesn't take a production staff member to create it.

Gosh, you mean that Matalas read some posts by some schmucks on Reddit and decided to come up with an idea to pander to the fandom at large by telling them to contact CBS/Paramount and ask for a sequel to the show that just ended so he could possibly keep his job? Say it ain't so!

 

[Noname Given]

It was never pitched.

"In July, Akiva Goldsman told TrekMovie 'when the time comes, we will certainly try' to pitch Star Trek: Year One. Later that month at SDCC (after the Skydance deal had been approved), he told THR they would 'beg and borrow when Skydance comes in' for a chance to make Year One. He also solicited the Comic-Con crowd in Hall H to let Skydance know they want the show.

TrekMovie spoke to Goldsman for the Strange New Worlds season 3 finale and asked if they have had a chance to speak to the new management team (which includes a Star Trek fan). The executive producer revealed they are still waiting for their moment:

“I think that—as I say, we’re renters, right?—and so the new owners of the house just took possession. So I don’t know. I think Year One’s a dream. And it’s a good dream, and it’s a real dream. And we would do it in a heartbeat. And right now, we know we promise to end Strange New Worlds well, so that’s what we’re doing. And if, for some reason, that dream is shared by the folks at Skydance and Paramount, that would be amazing. But we’re not relying on it. We’re ending the show because we promise to end the show in a way that is complete.”



What he said was:

“We started having this idea of those great lost years that exist in all of our head canon and ancillary canon, but had never really gotten much of a chance to be on screen. So what we’ve tried to do is try to reach back to Pike’s Enterprise and instill in it the kind of storytelling values we have today, and bring us right up to Kirk’s first day on the job. And that is our hope, and that is our plan. And we plan to get you there… and if you like us enough, you just write ‘Dear Skydance and Paramount, we know you still have the sets. Don’t you want to make Star Trek: Year One?'”

(emphasis mine)

So basically telling fans to write to Skydance and Paramount about wanting the show (when that is not remotely how things get greenlit) is not giving fans false hope to you?

Never pitched?

ORLY:

Star Trek showrunner offers exciting update on potential new spin-off set to revisit iconic era

There are more stories to be told on board the USS Enterprise.

www.radiotimes.com

Henry Alonso Myers, who is the co-showrunner of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds alongside Akiva Goldsman, has confirmed that the two of them have pitched their new idea, which they're calling Star Trek: Year One, to Paramount+ and it's now "in their hands".