And she said what she said as a current representative of CBS/Paramount.
Fair enough.
Although, again, as Kirsten said in the interview, there is no such thing as an official studio policy designating something canonical. CBS/Paramount just decides to make the shows, which are the canon by definition. It's the writers and producers of those shows who decide what they actually contain and what continuity they reference or ignore. So what matters isn't that Kirsten is a "representative of CBS/Paramount," but rather, that she's one of the writer/producers making those story decisions. The canon is not a studio doctrine, it's just the cumulative story decisions made by the creative talent of the shows.
She specifically said in the article that she talked to the higher ups and they told her it will be treated as canon, so they won't purposefully contradict it, and might incorporate stuff from it in future series. I wonder if were see Khan again for some reason, maybe in flashbacks or on the holodeck, if might bring back Naveen Andrews. He was great in podcast, and I would love to see him play Khan on screen now.
So not to beat a dead horse, but I'm totally fine with the Khan audio being canon as far as CBS/Paramount is concerned. My initial question was whether CBS/Paramount considered it canon, since just because an official production was made (i.e. books, comics, video games, Very Short Treks, etc.) doesn't mean that the current holders of the IP consider it to be such.
And on a side note, Beyer's statement that CBS/Paramount won't 'contradict it' is patently absurd, IMHO, since Star Trek productions constantly contradict older canon.
I would guess it means they won't deliberately contradict it, they'll just contradict it accidentally.
That's not what was said:
He clearly was referring to Kirsten’s public statement, which was made in her professional capacity as a Star Trek producer and with the blessing of the current licensed Star Trek production entity and CBS Studios (the copyright holder). Since I don’t think she'll be endorsing your fanfic anytime soon, I don’t think we’ll need to worry about shifting any of our perceptions vis-a-vis its canonical status.
That's not what was said:
He clearly was referring to Kirsten’s public statement, which was made in her professional capacity as a Star Trek producer and with the blessing of the current licensed Star Trek production entity and CBS Studios (the copyright holder). Since I don’t think she'll be endorsing your fanfic anytime soon, I don’t think we’ll need to worry about shifting any of our perceptions vis-a-vis its canonical status.
This is what I am referring to:
“No, just that there is CBS/Paramount don't make big official proclamations declaring something canon.”
And I have no fanfic. That wasn’t remotely my point.
They won't contradict it the way Picard season 3 contradicted Picard season 1, they'll instead contradict it the way ENT contradicted TOS.I would guess it means they won't deliberately contradict it, they'll just contradict it accidentally.
I would guess it means they won't deliberately contradict it, they'll just contradict it accidentally.
Even Gene Roddenberry would contradict his own "canon" if he felt that doing so improved the current script in development. eg. Spock once mentioned "an ancestor" had human blood, and a year later, we learn that the ancestor was... his mother.
It varies. All audio-only character articles have been merged into a Star Trek: Khan characters list but Cetidactyl still has its own article and Wild boar still has info from the audio series in the main body of the article.
Thank you. I wish SCO was still going on. They could have the Scouts rescue a Cetidactyl as a nice tie-in.
People here keep ignoring what Kirsten Beyer explicitly said in her interview, that there is no such thing as an official in charge of "declaring" something canonical. Whatever the creators of the shows and films choose to create is the canon by definition. You don't need to declare "I am walking," you just walk. As Kirsten said, what makes Khan effectively canonical is that the current writer-producers have chosen to stay consistent with it. Although, as we've seen many times, that's no guarantee that future canon creators won't choose to contradict it.
Except when it comes to novels, comics, video games, rpgs, tie-in materials, etc. etc. Even other Trek novel authors on this very board have stated that novels aren’t canon. So who made that decision?
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