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The two-month period between "Objects in Space" and Serenity has gotta be the most narratively crowded since... I don't know, the second half of 1813 in the "Master and Commander" novels.
I saw someone describe that period in the Aubrey/Maturin novels on Usenet long ago as "leaves Newtonian space-time," and I have used that phrase ever since. :guffaw:

And Big Finish has made a business out of shoving literal years of adventures between contiguous Doctor Who episodes, so there's precedent for overcrowding a period that can't be crowded in other franchises. :)
 
Was it really only two months? It's been so long since I've watched Serenity that I don't remember any references to the time difference.
In E11 "Trash," Mal says it had been about six months since E06 "Our Mrs. Reynolds," and at the beginning of Serenity, he has a line that River and Simon had been on the ship for eight months. So it's actually even tighter than two months, that's just the absolute maximum gap based on dialog. I suppose you can twist Mal's line in the movie ("Eight months, you had her on my boat knowing full well she could go monkeyshit at the wrong word. You never said a thing.") to be referencing some specific incident that he sees in hindsight as where Simon would've known how dangerous River could be and didn't report it, maybe "Ariel," but it's a stretch compared to just ignoring it, especially since the context makes it clear that they're talking about when Simon first busted River out of the research facility.

I know the advice is to avoid numbers in fiction because whatever you say won't make sense when your most anal fan looks into it, but maybe just thinking about the numbers you're using for a second would also be good.
 
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The time between OiS and the movie is tight, and kind of covered in some comics. I wonder how much of that they will ignore or retcon? We can't really expect the series to last long in this time frame (and assuming Book has already left the ship, Inara isn't far behind) and from indications from the movie Mal, and their runs, were getting rougher and darker.

Retcon events/time frame from the movie?
 
Perhaps the first season is a tight and intense timeline which ultimately leads to Inara's and Book's decisions to leave at the end. Of course, if they do seasons after Serenity, what does that mean for Alan Tudyk? Does start voicing a new character or revive Wash somehow (which I would be against).

Or they just ignore the two months math and fly as long as they want, slowly building up to  Serenity and then cross that juncture after several seasons.
 
My hopes:
1. Don’t dumb it down for a YA audience. We all know who this is for.
2. Don’t shy away from the violence seen in the series and movie.
3. Don’t lean into the comic adaptations too much. I want new material (I can budge a little on this point).
4 Keep true to the dialogue, including quick quips, bunk refences and a mix of English and Chinese.
 
I'm praying that if this falls through for any reason, my fellow Browncoats behave better than the Buffy fandom did and don't lose their minds.
I'm saying this based on the drawing style. I think this will probably be a Disney Plus and Disney Channel project. Therefore, it has a higher chance of getting approved.
 
Just saw Nathan’s announcement. This is really good news and I hope it works. It’s been 20 odd years now (wow, I’m old). I’ve met the cast, went to the Edinburgh world premiere of the movie and had great fun at the conventions. My blue sun T-shirt is a bit tight, but the Jayne hat still fits.
 
I have to admit i'm a little disappointed.

I mean anything is good and the whole cast is back and if they keep the OG show style it'll be fun but i was really hoping for a live action reboot with a new crew and occasional cameos where it makes sense.

Let's see if they can wiggle out of pre-production hell and get this actually made, that's the second part - it doesn't even seem to be a firm announcement, like they still need to convince some higher ups to give the final green light.
 
Personally, I'd have preferred it if this were set post-Serenity, but I can see the logic of setting it between Firefly and Serenity. And who knows, if this is a success maybe something set post-Serenity could be in the cards at some point in the future? Time will tell, I guess.

And yeah, a live action revival featuring the cast just isn't practical, given they all are have steady acting work with at least three of them being lead actors on TV shows currently in production. There's no way a new cast could be seriously considered, as the whole appeal of Firefly is the cast and how well they all gel together. Without that, there really isn't that much of a draw. And before anyone makes the inevitable Star Trek comparison and that people were saying the same about the TOS cast before TNG started, it is a different situation. The Star Trek franchise in the 1980s had a lot more popularity amongst general audiences than Firefly has in the 2020s. It made sense to take a gamble on a new Star Trek with a new cast. That is not the case with Firefly at all
I'm praying that if this falls through for any reason, my fellow Browncoats behave better than the Buffy fandom did and don't lose their minds.
I think we all know the Browncoats will lose their minds even worse than the Buffy fans are at the moment. Buffy fandom at least got a full series and a spin-off, even if they were both over twenty years ago. If this show falls through, the Browncoats will view it as the franchise once again being screwed over and denied its chance to shine.
Retcon events/time frame from the movie?
That would be my guess, and indeed, the various tie-in material that's been made available over the years has retconned the timeframe established in Serenity. And honestly, eight months just feels like too short a timeframe, even if one just counts the episodes and movie.
Of course, if they do seasons after Serenity, what does that mean for Alan Tudyk? Does start voicing a new character or revive Wash somehow (which I would be against).
I would guess in this scenario Tudyk would voice a new character. With maybe occasional flashback scenes featuring Wash.
Don’t lean into the comic adaptations too much. I want new material (I can budge a little on this point).
The general rule of thumb is that it's generally only 1% of a fandom that bothers with tie-in material, and Firefly fandom isn't as active as the fandoms that metric was used to gauge, such as Star Trek, Star Wars or even Doctor Who. They all know better than to acknowledge their tie-ins in a serious manner in their onscreen material, this show won't be acknowledging Firefly tie-ins either. The whole tail wagging the dog thing.
Keep true to the dialogue, including quick quips, bunk refences and a mix of English and Chinese.
Eh, while the Chinese words to help make Firefly's world unique, I do agree with the criticism that the actors not knowing how to properly pronounce the Chinese words did get distracting. On a related note, I do hope this show corrects the one genuine mistake Firefly is guilty of and includes Asian characters with speaking roles.
 
The general rule of thumb is that it's generally only 1% of a fandom that bothers with tie-in material, and Firefly fandom isn't as active as the fandoms that metric was used to gauge, such as Star Trek, Star Wars or even Doctor Who. They all know better than to acknowledge their tie-ins in a serious manner in their onscreen material, this show won't be acknowledging Firefly tie-ins either. The whole tail wagging the dog thing.
There are cases where that relationship is flipped sometimes. The big one is video games, where novels and comics are frequently considered canon, maybe because it takes so long to make a game most of the story material ends up in the tie ins, maybe because of some peculiarity to gamers as opposed to movie and TV fans wanting to know the whole story or something. Given the teeny-tiny amount of filmed Firefly, along with the promotion the Dark Horse comics got that they were the canon, from-the-mind-of-Whedon continuations, it's hard to say which would be the case here. If this show was sooner after the comics had been released, I'd think it was more likely they would remain consistent with them, but after all the time, and additional lines of more "traditional" tie-in novels and comics that are set in established periods and aren't moving the overall storyline or setting forward, probably not. Plus, the timeframe allows them to side-step most potential contradictions, anyway.

Of course, the fundamental question isn't anything about the size or passion of the tie-in audience, it's really about if the people in charge care for the tie-ins. No one's going to force them to take them into account, but on the other hand, if they think "Better Days" or "Those Left Behind" was the pinnacle of sci-fi storytelling and really want to cover why Inara would rather Mal thought Simon was employing her than know she'd had a medical concern, then the show will consider that as backstory, and as with anything that happened in a prior episode, will recap the necessary details so everyone watching can understand what's happening.
 

Original series creator Joss Whedon gave his blessing for the new iteration of the show that would be run by Tara Butters ('Agent Carter,' 'Dollhouse') and Marc Guggenheim ('Arrow,' 'Flash') and involves Oscar- and Emmy-winning animation studio ShadowMachine.
 
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I suppose you can twist Mal's line in the movie ("Eight months, you had her on my boat knowing full well she could go monkeyshit at the wrong word. You never said a thing.") to be referencing some specific incident that he sees in hindsight

Wouldn't this refer to the time between them getting on the boat and Mal finding out she can go Apeshit? When did he find that out?
 
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