The Dalek Masterplan's first two episodes found!! by an eclectic collector!!
Thank you so much for your detailed and well-sourced explanation. Hopefully we'll learn about Vanezis' discovery sooner than later.
I'm all for dragging Ian Levine.
I'll admit, the people in the comments dragging Ian Levine made me laugh.
Who is my first love and ME one of my major sub-loves so I follow it all pretty carefully.
I hope I don’t come across as pedantic… I’m not sure if ‘well sourced’ was slightly, justifiably, sarcastic given that I didn’t provide any sources…
If anyone is interested though, everything posted comes from the horses mouths as it were:
The Missing Episodes Podcast have been working closely with FiF, so anything I said comes from them directly. Their channel can be found on YouTube and it’ll help anyone who’s interested to cut any of the flimflam or games of telephone out of the discussion.
This is the lengthy interview with FiF themselves. Apologies for the belated source.
Not having a swipe at anyone… it’s easy to get misinformed, but I started to see untruths form (it’s a different collection, the episodes were in ramshackle condition…) and felt I had to correct.
I actually don’t get involved with the Doctor Who part of the forum much. I hope I didn’t come off as a dick and hope I’m not coming off as one now.
It’s delightful news though, isn’t it? Hartnell is my preferred Doc for returns and though I’ve episodes I’d prefer to see than DMP 1 and 3, I definitely won’t turn my nose up. ;-)
What is the speculation for the other episodes that have been found but not talked about? More Hartnell?
The biggest surprise from these found episodes, like with the found episodes of Troughton a decade ago, was just how awesome Hartnell really was as the Doctor. And Courtney's acting in his scene with Katarina is something no recon could ever approach without hard work animation at all.
I'll admit, the people in the comments dragging Ian Levine made me laugh.
It is speculation so I wouldn’t like to comment definitively.
Vanezis talked of two episodes in a collection. I don’t remember the wording exactly, but he said something along the lines of them not being bangers.
By which I mean, he basically said it’s not The Tenth Planet 4 or anything exciting exactly.
Apparently he confirmed the episodes didn’t get returned from Australia which apparently means most likely not Troughton.
Something from Season 2-3 seems likely.
But please, don’t quote me on any of that. That’s all inference and supposition.
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2 excellent and reliable channels. Thank you.
The guys over at Radio Free Skaro plan on doing some interviews related to this with the folks over at Films are Fabulous. I recommend checking them out too.
I’d listen to what FiF have to say, but RFS can be a bit iffy.
You did to the extent by saying who is making the claims instead of just "rumor has it..."
Plus, I trust based on this post and previous posts in the past that you know what you're talking about.
Thank you for sharing this. I'll try to watch some of it when I have the chance.
Which you should always do.
The ramshackle comment does come from the BBC article but it wasn't clear as to what exactly was ramshackle. Which isn't a surprise, unfortunately, since there are several things in that article that are unclear.
While I'm much more of a Troughton fan and I continuously lament how so many of his episodes are still missing (2013 was glorious!), I do share your enthusiasm and joy about the recovery of these missing Hartnell episodes.
Same. I like the second Doctor far more than the first. However, I'm always happy to see new episodes.
Troughton is to my mind the superior actor, wasted on a lot of very samey stories.
I am however of the bent that any return, no matter what, is of value.
I would have preferred to get two episodes of The Crusade back to complete my favorite 60s story, but I’m not going to complain when two from DMP breeze through the doors after a very dry 13 year period of zero episode returns.
I am however of the bent that any return, no matter what, is of value.
I would have preferred to get two episodes of The Crusade back to complete my favorite 60s story, but I’m not going to complain when two from DMP breeze through the doors after a very dry 13 year period of zero episode returns.
I'll admit, the people in the comments dragging Ian Levine made me laugh.
The Levine isn't as awful as I expected, I guess, but the character animation was very dead-eyed and robotic, the Doctor's body language didn't feel Hartnell-like at all, and the camera moves and cuts weren't well-done.
The quality of Doctor Who animation varies a lot.
This guy does a good job of ranking them. I mostly agree with his assessment. You can go from a very, very good animation to a very clunky one.
Just to be clear, he wasn't speaking of any of the official animated releases, the Levine one in question is fan-made Ai material.
There is fan made material that isn't AI too. Wheel in Space comes to mind.
Doctor Who: The Wheel in Space. Missing Episodes 3D animations
The four missing episodes of Doctor Who: The Wheel in Space. 3D Animation by Iz and Steve Skinner. The surviving episodes 3 and 6 of The Wheel in Space are c...
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And it's pretty good.
If only Web of Fear Episode 3 was even half as good as this.There is fan made material that isn't AI too. Wheel in Space comes to mind.
Doctor Who: The Wheel in Space. Missing Episodes 3D animations
The four missing episodes of Doctor Who: The Wheel in Space. 3D Animation by Iz and Steve Skinner. The surviving episodes 3 and 6 of The Wheel in Space are c...
And it's pretty good.
As for the Hartnell-Troughton, my feeling has always been, Hartnell's first two seasons were shows that stand the test of time in terms of having some meat and bone to them, not just being sci-fi but stories of their own that work, whereas Troughton was basically horror theatre and Base Under Siege most of the time. But its so hard to argue against the legitimate magic that is Patrick Troughton, who is clearly the best thing holding those stories together - and lets not kid ourselves, a lot of the time they were beneath his talents.