Well the Vulcans are a bunch of racist tossers, so why not?
Trek's future according to Paramount's new owners...
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It's hard to imagine Star Trek not getting better, because it can't get much worse than it's been recently.
This change in ownership is likely a good thing.
I'm so over Kurtzman's "Mcdonald's Trek".
you could also call them TOSers
It's hard to imagine Star Trek not getting better, because it can't get much worse than it's been recently.
This change in ownership is likely a good thing.
I'm so over Kurtzman's "Mcdonald's Trek".
Easy there.
McDonald’s is a guilty pleasure in the moment but leaves you feeling lousy afterward.
Kurtzman Trek, for the most part, is both hard to swallow and leaves you feeling just as bad.
Still, the fact that this unfortunate era of Trek is finally (probably) ending doesn’t mean the next version will fit neatly with whatever vague expectations some fans have. Giant Douche / Turd Sandwich and all that.
Most unhappy fans just want to recapture the magic they felt watching Trek with younger, less jaded eyes back in the day. And that’s simply never going to happen.
We're discussing more than Picard season 3 here.
For the vast, vast majority of it that is precisely how I feel. Watching Discovery (2-5), Picard (1-2) Lower Decks, SNW and Academy and yes even Section 31 all makes me feel the same way I did when I was 6 years old watching DS9 and VOY.
My heart tells me it's all still the same Star Trek.
The Happy Happy, Joy Joy era where bad things never lasted beyond the length of a two-part episode.
Where the LGBTQ+ community is a "concept" or an "idea" (something other than a lived REALITY for many people).
Where Harry Kim is forever sealed in amber (Carbonite?) as the Eternal Ensign.
Universe-shattering carnage? No problem! There's always the reset button.
#Sarcasm
True. McDonalds isn't considered the highest quality, but people actually like it (including myself).
Kurtzman Trek is more like Long John Silvers; bad, irrelevant and its customer base continues to shrink.
We'll never fully recapture the magic. I just want something made by talented people. Something mature. I think even a lot of people who claim to like the Kurtzman-verse would admit Alex isn't exactly brimming with artistic integrity (and that's putting it mildly).
Really? I can certainly see how someone might not be a fan of his overall body of work—that’s a matter of opinion. But lacking in integrity implies a deliberate degree of unethical behaviour. Among the many, many complaints about him from some, this is not one I’ve come across, much less from people who do like his work.
Define "mature".
Exactly. It is trying to capture a feeling that can never come again.
It's why I refuse to treat Star Trek shows in comparison to others. They either stand as they are or not.
People who never joke, who never take lives unless necessary, and who never show emotions aside from prescribed times.
I don't know about this; people who were otherwise critical of the Kurtzman stuff responded with cautious optimism to the first season of SNW.
IOW, something other than human.
Fitting, given the popular characters, like Spock, Data, Worf and Odo are not humans in the fandom.
imagine if there was trumpers in the star trek universe
Exclusive: Alex Kurtzman On Starting Discussions With Paramount Skydance Over The Future Of Star Trek TV
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ARTISTIC integrity is what I said.
Not exactly easy to articulate it in this context. Maybe it's easier to say what's it's not.
Something more mature might not have as much quippy dialog or lines like "You guys this is so fucking cool!". I don't enjoy the ship's crew acting like teenagers either.
Some of my favorite Trek episodes are The Defector, Balance of Terror, In The Pale Moonlight.
I asked AI what modern Trek is so immature:
Something more mature might not have as much quippy dialog or lines like "You guys this is so fucking cool!". I don't enjoy the ship's crew acting like teenagers either.
Some of my favorite Trek episodes are The Defector, Balance of Terror, In The Pale Moonlight.
I asked AI what modern Trek is so immature:
I think it comes down to the difference between broadcast vs. streaming.
Up until 2005, Trek was constrained by airing on broadcast TV.
Broadcast TV is heavily regulated (no profanity is permitted). Everything had to be family-friendly. The characters on Trek were reduced to being animatronic set pieces utterly lacking in emotion.
Streaming, OTOH, has no such limitations on language. I found Voyager's emotionally restrained crew unrealistic (These people may not see their families and loved ones again in their lifetimes and they're just supposed to pretend everything is normal?)
People don't always keep it together. People get stressed out. People cuss, cry, yell, and scream. They display a full range of human emotions.
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