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Artemis stacking begins

Yeah, that was actually the point I was trying to make. With sufficient funding, I believe SNC would have had Dreamchaser ready a long time ago.
When they lost the crew contract to Boeing I was surprised they continued on at all.
 
I'm wondering if something like the Lockheed Martin X-33 (and scaled-up SSTO versions of it such as the VentureStar) could now be made to work as there have been great strides in the construction of reliable composite-material fuel tanks. However, I don't know that would be applicable to multi-lobed tanks. The aerospace materials technology just wasn't up to it 30 years ago, but it might be now.
 
I'm wondering if something like the Lockheed Martin X-33 (and scaled-up SSTO versions of it such as the VentureStar) could now be made to work as there have been great strides in the construction of reliable composite-material fuel tanks. However, I don't know that would be applicable to multi-lobed tanks. The aerospace materials technology just wasn't up to it 30 years ago, but it might be now.
I can't remember what the Venture Star was supposed to use as an engine, but I remember the X-33 was designed around a version of the Apollo J-2 modified as an aerospike, so maybe it just used more of them. i don't know how close they got to getting it working, but subsequent work on the J2-X for Ares and later SLS might have worked.

In the meantime I guess some work on comformal composite tanks continues:
 
I can't remember what the Venture Star was supposed to use as an engine, but I remember the X-33 was designed around a version of the Apollo J-2 modified as an aerospike, so maybe it just used more of them. i don't know how close they got to getting it working, but subsequent work on the J2-X for Ares and later SLS might have worked.

In the meantime I guess some work on comformal composite tanks continues:
The VentureStar was supposedly going to use seven Rocketdyne RS-2200 linear aerospike engines. The RS-2200 was never built, but the XRS-2200 with about half the thrust was built and tested.
 
The VentureStar was supposedly going to use seven Rocketdyne RS-2200 linear aerospike engines. The RS-2200 was never built, but the XRS-2200 with about half the thrust was built and tested.
that makes sense. X-33 was a suborbital demonstrator and i don't think there was any way they'd get the J-2's ISP high enough for SSTO. Though the closest the US has ever got to SSTO was probably the original ATLAS ICBM
 
The final form of the VentureStar

SLS cost for EELV payloads? No thanks.

Wayne Ordway argued for a modular approach
 
The final form of the VentureStar

SLS cost for EELV payloads? No thanks.

Wayne Ordway argued for a modular approach
It was so far removed from the original idea by 2000. That was part of the problem with X-33.. they wanted an all up test on everything. It's not what an X-plane is for. LockMart already had unlimited access to the feeding trough but they got even greedier
 
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The move to replace SLS:
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Meanwhile, the Donald wants two hundred billion dollars more money to blow on a destabilizing war.

Scratch that, reverse it.
 
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