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I'd prefer permanent standard time.

Here's my reason, that dates back to 1975, the Year I Found Star Trek And Rediscovered My Love Of Astronomy.

When I wasn't reading Star Trek and science fiction, I was reading astronomy books. And when I found out that there are annual meteor showers, I really wanted to stay up to see them.

Problem: I lived with my grandparents, who set my bedtime at 10 pm, no matter if it was winter or summer. I think the two exceptions ever made were because of weekend TV programming; the Love Boat/Fantasy Island shows were on from 10-midnight on Saturday (and even so my grandfather usually carped about it so most of the time I saw them when I got a babysitting job at the neighbor's).

Second exception: Every Easter, ABC would rerun The Ten Commandments. My grandmother's favorite actors included Charlton Heston, so she let me stay up with her to watch it (back in the days of pre-streaming, even pre-DVD and VHS, that movie was 4 HOURS).

So along came summer of 1976. I said I wanted to stay up and watch the Perseid meteor shower. I'd need to do it after 10 pm, because thanks to Daylight Saving Time, it wasn't even dark at 10 pm.

My grandmother asked why I couldn't just "watch it tomorrow". :wtf: It's mindboggling how I could never get her to understand that meteor showers aren't visible in the daylight. Neither are lunar eclipses (yes, some years later I'd stay up for those as well). I eventually argued them into letting me watch the meteor shower as long as I stayed in the yard. I was outside until about 2 am.

I don't get to see many of these anymore (either meteor showers or eclipses. It's always too friggin' cloudy.
 
Yes, it's always the clouds. I know the feeling so well as an amateur astronomer. :D
Btw, I hope you haven't stopped looking up! :)
 
Yes, it's always the clouds. I know the feeling so well as an amateur astronomer. :D
Btw, I hope you haven't stopped looking up! :)

On far too many occasions there's been an astronomical event and my neck of the woods has had cloud cover.

And it gets compounded by our location (close to the downtown core) and light pollution.

Much better for my in-laws in a multi-storey building on top of a hill - they get view and the light pollution is a lot less.
 
On far too many occasions there's been an astronomical event and my neck of the woods has had cloud cover.

And it gets compounded by our location (close to the downtown core) and light pollution.

Much better for my in-laws in a multi-storey building on top of a hill - they get view and the light pollution is a lot less.
The lunar eclipse the other day? Smoke from wildfires was really thick. That it started at OMG thirty in the morning didn't help much, so I slept in.
 
On far too many occasions there's been an astronomical event and my neck of the woods has had cloud cover.

The running joke among astronomers is that whenever someone gets a new telescope, anyone in the immediate area should be expecting cloud cover for the next 30 days... :D

But yes, light pollution is an issue, but fortunately it's an issue that is growing in awareness internationally. When communities made the conversion to LED though, they saw the cost savings and came to the wrong conclusions. Instead of less more efficient lighting, they instead decided to double-down on it, compounding the issue. And what is up with those LED billboards? Those are the worst. In our city we've got a few of these and they are always blindlingly bright especially when they are showing something with a white background. There need to be ordinances about those.

In 2024, I got to view the Solar Eclipse in Ohio from a condo rooftop. It was spectacular. The Solar Eclipse before that, in 2017, I viewed it in a small town in Oregon, on the motel owner's own home property situated on a plateau.
 
Many years after my first time of meteor-watching (late 1980s), I was working in the interpretive centre for an urban wildlife sanctuary we have here. There was an area that was reasonably dark at night - the bird blind overlooking a small lake.

So I invited a couple of friends from our local Star Trek club to come watch meteors with me. The sanctuary was accessible after-hours through a narrow turnstyle gate that was the height of a tall chainlink fence.

Try to imagine me, toting a telescope, flashlight with red tape over it so we wouldn't lose our night vision, and a couple of books of star maps. One of my friends was toting a huge cooler with drinks and snacks. Why, I don't know. We weren't really set up for a picnic and people are discouraged from bringing snacks into the sanctuary anyway, because of littering. But he brought this crazy big cooler, and then realized we'd have to hoist it up and over the fence, because it was too big to go through the gate.

Fortunately my other friend was tall, and between the two of them, they managed. After that it was a short hike along the trail, through a patch of woods, until we got to the bird blind. I warned them not to fall into the lake because I had no idea where the water ended and dry land started. Humans weren't allowed on the lake until winter (I've been cross-country skiing on that lake).

So we got set up, the night was clear and beautiful, and everything was going fine. I was explaining the constellations and planets, and then my friend (the guy who brought the cooler) asked me where the bathrooms were.

"Inside the interpretive centre. It's locked now and we can't get in," I told him.

He wasn't happy to hear that. He said he couldn't drive back to my house (we'd come by car, though it was only a 25-minute cross-country walk back to my house) in time. So I told him that there were plenty of bushes around. Pick one and get on with it.

He wasn't happy to hear that, either. He grumbled as he went off to find a bush for some privacy, and then I decided to really rub it in: "Watch out for the skunks!" (I hadn't given him a flashlight, so hopefully he wouldn't stumble over any).

By that point he was VERY not happy. :devil:

We were out there until a little after 3 am, when the fog started rolling in off the lake. That was the first time I'd ever seen this, and it was rather cool (in both senses of the word; it was getting a bit chilly by that point).

So we decided we'd had a good time counting meteors, looking at stars, planets, constellations, and my friend managed to avoid the skunks, so we'd call it a night. We packed everything up and headed back (again having to hoist that cooler over the fence).

When we got back to my house, my dad was still up. He made us hot chocolate, which was really appreciated by that time.
 
In 2024, I got to view the Solar Eclipse in Ohio from a condo rooftop. It was spectacular.

I might have mentioned this before, but I took the day off work that day so I could drive somewhere within the totality range. So glad I did, such an incredible experience. First time (and presumably last time) I've ever seen a total eclipse.

And it's nothing to do with astronomy, but I'm just sharing this here because I thought it was funny.

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Sorry, I can't laugh at anything associated with that jackass (PP).

Especially his hypocrisy regarding housing. In his 20 years as an MP, there's a HUGE list of social programs he voted against. He doesn't get to pretend he gives a damn now.
 
I might have mentioned this before, but I took the day off work that day so I could drive somewhere within the totality range. So glad I did, such an incredible experience. First time (and presumably last time) I've ever seen a total eclipse.

That was one had a good view from our parking lot and the sky wasn’t to cloudy and was also the first time I’d seen one as well.

Two years later and it just struck me I should’ve take my camera out rather than trying with my phone.

I was given a Sony Nex-5 (okay it was payment for some work), a it doesn’t have a traditional view finder, which I’ve cursed on a few occasions, instead you use the screen on the back.

A screen that folds out and tilts so I could have pointed the camera without looking at the eclipse.
 
I might have mentioned this before, but I took the day off work that day so I could drive somewhere within the totality range. So glad I did, such an incredible experience. First time (and presumably last time) I've ever seen a total eclipse.
We had the totality in our backyard, so that was nice.
 
So we decided we'd had a good time counting meteors, looking at stars, planets, constellations, and my friend managed to avoid the skunks, so we'd call it a night. We packed everything up and headed back (again having to hoist that cooler over the fence).

When we got back to my house, my dad was still up. He made us hot chocolate, which was really appreciated by that time.

You sound like an all-around fun person to hang out with, plus your Dad sounds like a great guy. :)

I would love to visit more of Alberta, as the only time I've ever been was via my way back from Oregon when I was coming back from our 2017 Eclipse trip.

I might have mentioned this before, but I took the day off work that day so I could drive somewhere within the totality range. So glad I did, such an incredible experience. First time (and presumably last time) I've ever seen a total eclipse.


I don't remember hearing about your Eclipse experience. But they are really magical experiences when the weather cooperates. I remember when I experienced my first one in 2017, and I remember feeling like it was a strange black orb floating in the sky, very alien in feeling. But also a very communal experience for anyone you experience it with.
 
I'm not Canadian, I didn't see the 2017 Eclipse - however I did see the 2024 Solar Eclipse. Here is my picture of it. It was the first time I saw a Solar Eclipse, and while it was a little cloudy, I still got to see it and it was beautiful.

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I did take a picture of the Lunar Eclipse here a few days ago. Got up real early in the Cold Winter morning to take these pictures. I stood out there for well over an hour and watched it until it set.

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You sound like an all-around fun person to hang out with, plus your Dad sounds like a great guy. :)

I would love to visit more of Alberta, as the only time I've ever been was via my way back from Oregon when I was coming back from our 2017 Eclipse trip.

Aw, thank you! :adore:

My dad was really great. He was always so supportive of my hobbies and interests, whether it was buying me a rock hammer and book on minerals and making plans to go hiking in BC and looking for rocks (I still have the box of rocks, shells, and driftwood we collected on Vancouver Island in the summer of 1977 - my last summer before starting high school), or years later, helping me with my geography lab for college at 4 am (I love science but am a bit math-challenged).

The geography course I took was a blast. The prof was really well-traveled and so enthusiastic. He'd tell us stories about places he'd been, and when it came to the classwork, he let us decide whether to work solo or in a group. I had a couple of friends from the local science fiction community (we'd all been part of putting on one of the Noncons in Red Deer a couple of years earlier) and we worked together on our labs. I brought the geometry set and pencil crayons (in some ways it was like being back in elementary school, coloring maps again, but this time was more complicated - soil types, rivers, and contour maps).

The nice thing was that the prof didn't mind if we didn't finish during class. He let us take them home and finish overnight, as long as we turned them in by noon the next day.

On Thanksgiving weekend I intended to go to Calgary for the annual fall science fiction convention, so I'd have to miss the class (was taking the Friday afternoon Greyhound). So I had to make a quick stop by the college to slip my lab assignment under the office door, and I was hoping I could just do it and not get caught and have to explain that I was skipping class that day.

Oops. He was in the office and opened the door as I was sliding the papers under it. So I had to 'fess up. He didn't seem concerned that I'd miss the lecture; I was pulling off good marks so far. And I guess it actually was a fairly reasonable thing for students to take off early for Thanksgiving. That's a holiday that never meant much to me since I wasn't fond of elaborate turkey dinners. But the Alberta Regional SF convention was always held on that weekend, so that's what I did. My grandmother would save a plate of turkey and the rest for me to have when I got home on either Sunday or Monday.

So the prof looked at me and said, "You're carrying a bit more than usual today..." while looking at my suitcase. He was used to seeing me toting my books and binders around in a couple of shopping bags. I told him I was going to Calgary for the weekend to a science fiction convention and one of my friends in the class was also going to be there so she'd be missing class as well.

The convention was fun, and the following Wednesday we had the midterm exam. One of the questions was an essay-type one on the water cycle. We had to draw a diagram of it and explain it.

I blanked on the diagram. I'd done it previously in a lab but couldn't remember how the whole thing was supposed to go, though I did remember the written part. The prof decided to give me a break on that when he'd marked the exams. I was just one or two marks shy of an A, and he said, "I know you know this from your lab. You can take this home and redo it. Bring it back first thing in the morning and I'll bump your grade up."

So I did, and he bumped my grade up from B to A. And I studied the hell out of that for the final exam (though of course it wasn't on the final; we had a different essay question for that - contour maps, I think).

Anyway, my dad was cool with my interest in astronomy and gave me a couple of telescopes (one bigger one, and the smaller one that I took along to the sanctuary when we went meteor-watching). So I've seen the mountains on the Moon, and Saturn, and it was all really amazing. My dad also took my grandmother and me to Drumheller to the Royal Tyrrell Museum of Paleontology. Even in the '80s, it was a world-class research facility and museum for fossils and dinosaurs. It's still going strong (hopefully the current anti-science government we have isn't going to screw it over any worse than just increasing the fees to an outrageous amount - seriously, provincial educational tourist places took a quantum jump in prices, like from $9-11 to $50; obviously she doesn't want people to get too smart about science :mad: ).

One summer at Con-Version (annual SF convention in Calgary, in July), they managed to get Dr. Phil Currie, who ran the Royal Tyrrell Museum at that time, to do a weekend-long track of programming on paleontology. The SF conventions we had here were never about the actors. They were about writing (lots of author Guests of Honor), editing, various arts, and education. The year that Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 crashed into Jupiter, they'd arranged for a bus to take convention members to the local planetarium to watch it happen live. I didn't manage to take part in that, but wow. Even now, I can't help thinking about poor Jupiter! Ben Bova wrote a couple of novels about Jupiter, including an intelligent lifeform called Leviathan, who lived in one of the layers of Jupiter's atmosphere, and described how Leviathan's people were affected by the pieces of comet slamming into the planet and disrupting the food chain.

My dad was cool with the Star Trek club, too. We had our first annual summer barbecue in my back yard, and my dad helped set up tables, chairs, and brought out some lights from the garage after it got dark (probably really annoyed the neighbors, but whatever; at least we weren't playing music). He provided coffee and a place for the smokers in the group (can't smoke around me as I'm deathly allergic to smoke). That was also the first time I put on my "Alexius Trebekius" persona and hosted a Star Trek Jeopardy! contest. Of course it wasn't any elaborate thing. Our "buzzer system" consisted of tupperware bowls and either a wooden spoon or spatula to bang on them to "buzz" in. So whoever thumped their bowl or serving dish first got first crack at answering the question. It was all about points, and everyone got a prize (I'd picked up some inexpensive stuff in the dealers' room at the convention a couple of weeks earlier).

My dad died 7 years ago, after 12 years of dementia and living in a nursing home. He forgot most of his life and almost everyone he ever knew. He remembered me until his last few months when he got really sick. He couldn't remember the specific cats I had (he actually never got to meet Maddy because they wouldn't let me take her into the nursing home without more vet red tape and stress than I was willing to put that cat through), but he did remember I had cats.

He referred to the cats as kids: "How are the kids?" and of course his nurses thought it was nice that he had grandchildren. I had to explain to them that I didn't actually have human children and "the kids" was family code for "the cats" (when the cats consider you their human mother, it's legit to consider yourself a mother, as far as I'm concerned).

My dad was very smart about a lot of things - he could do so many things (he built some of my furniture from scratch or repurposed other pieces of furniture to make something new, and he designed an amazing rug hooking frame that's big enough and sturdy enough to make a quilt on, if I knew how to do that). He was artistic in a lot of other ways, too - leatherworking (made me a keychain with an image of my first cat on it, out of leather, and a wallet with a squirrel on it; we had a family of squirrels living in the crabapple tree in our back yard), and also did a woodcarving of her. He carved and painted a snowy owl on a piece of tree stump he'd brought back from BC, and I've still got that. It looks very realistic, though of course it's not quite big enough to be a real owl.

And one of the things I found in his stuff was a little pocket-sized sketch book. To my surprise I found a pencil drawing of a Dalek that I hadn't known he'd made. He enjoyed Doctor Who (Tom Baker, of course!).
 
^ It really does make a difference when you get a teacher who is enthusiastic and makes the learning fun. Those are the ones who often go above and beyond and instill an interest in the subject. My Fav subject was my English class at my French High-School, but I also had an awesome history teacher that made history feel alive, thus I felt more invested, and to this day, it's one of the reasons why I'm quite into historical fiction.

Sorry to hear about your Dad's battle with dementia. That is a horrible way to go. I had a Grandmother that went the same way, and by the time she was really deep into it, not only would she not recognize anyone, she would become aggressive, which was really hard to witness as she was not normally an aggressive person, but I hear dementia can do that to a person. But we have to take the positive moments we've had with them, and it sounds like your Dad really instilled a love of science with the way he supported you.

Interesting that you mentioned Phil Currie, as I also have a story to share related to him. I think I've mentioned before having an Uncle who's a paleontologist. He and Phil Currie were well-acquainted. As it happened, he was going to be giving a lecture at our local science centre and had really been looking forward to it. My Uncle's Mother, ie, my Grandmother (not the one above) happened to have passed away, and I actually emailed Phil to express my disappointment that I wouldn't be making it out due to the funeral being that same day, then he passed on his condolences to my Uncle.

Wouldn't you know, I had actually met several times and gotten to know David Levy which the comet is named after? Both he and his wife were very prominent comet hunters, and the telescope he used to discover it will be part of an exhibit at a telescope museum in Toronto.
 
You don't have to be Canadian to enjoy Eclipses! :D I hope you get to see one without clouds in the future.
I had wanted to travel to Newfoundland to see the Solar Eclipse of 2025 there in March. Unfortunately that never happened.

There is a chance that in the relatively near-future I might be able to see a partial one, and another Lunar one. I will do whatever it takes to be able to see a Solar Eclipse, even if it is a partial one, as they are rare.

I am lucky to have been alive to be able to see the one in 2024.

Hopefully if all goes to plan, I'll be able to see the following two this year. August isn't too far off.

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^ It really does make a difference when you get a teacher who is enthusiastic and makes the learning fun. Those are the ones who often go above and beyond and instill an interest in the subject. My Fav subject was my English class at my French High-School, but I also had an awesome history teacher that made history feel alive, thus I felt more invested, and to this day, it's one of the reasons why I'm quite into historical fiction.

My high school English teacher had her good points and not-great points. She pushed her personal religion in class (this was pre-Charter of Rights, so technically not illegal in a public school, just unethical). But on the other hand, she sparked an interest in Shakespeare, enough to persuade me to see a live performance (I went into that one cold, as we hadn't studied it in class, and loved it - Twelfth Night). After that, I became a Shakespeare fan - and it's why I prefer a lot of the British actors and historical dramas. Try explaining all this to Dune fans who think Zendaya is the greatest thing since sliced bread, and on top of that she invented bread and metallurgy to create the knife to slice it. My own Dune preferences are a combination of the Lynch movie and the two miniseries.

My own favorite history teacher was the one in college who taught the classical history course I took. It was an introductory course on Greek and Roman history, and he admitted to us that he was more knowledgeable about the Greek content than the Roman. I actually did catch him in a mistake on the Roman stuff (Livia and Tiberius weren't married; she was his mother!). But on the subject of historical fiction, he asked me if I'd ever read anything by Lindsay Davis. I said no, and he let me borrow one of his books (Venus in Copper). The Falco novels are basically Sam-Spade-meets-late-1st-century-Rome in the reign of Vespasian. The protagonist is Marcus Didius Falco, private informer (aka private detective) who took on jobs of the sort that any TV detective would, plus some more... discreet... work for the Imperial family (Titus was notoriously slow to pay him, though).

Venus in Copper isn't the first book in the series, so after I read it, I decided to read what came before that (had to find out just how Falco managed to get into a relationship with a Senator's daughter, given his own low social status). I ended up taking a deep dive into this series, and a few weeks later in the course, after I mentioned this to the teacher, we had a conversation that still gives me a laugh (this was 30 years ago!). It was the beginning of class, I came in, and he asked, "So what did you think of the part when she had the baby?" (referring to the Senator's daughter, Lady Helena Justina).

I hadn't read that far. I said, "She had a baby?" :eek:

He promptly said, "Oops! Sorry!" He hadn't intended to let any spoilers out.

The rest of the class was mostly in the room by that point, and were staring at us, wondering wtf we were talking about. It sounded like we were discussing a soap opera! :lol:

He really made that class fun (he told us at the beginning, "History is FUN!"). Some people didn't believe that, and those were the ones who were taking the class for easy credit, and weren't really that interested. For me, it was wonderful, because there was so much I didn't know about Greek history, and while I did already know a lot of the Roman material he covered (I've been a Roman history fan ever since seeing I, Claudius in the '70s), there was still quite a bit of material new to me. This is what got me started seriously collecting historical novels, plus the Penguin editions of Tacitus, Suetonius, and others. I've even got a few books on learning Latin, though I haven't tackled that yet. Some people think I'm insane for intending to do this, but Latin isn't something I had a chance to learn in school. I think it's a whole other thing if you want to learn it, rather than being forced to learn it.

Sorry to hear about your Dad's battle with dementia. That is a horrible way to go. I had a Grandmother that went the same way, and by the time she was really deep into it, not only would she not recognize anyone, she would become aggressive, which was really hard to witness as she was not normally an aggressive person, but I hear dementia can do that to a person. But we have to take the positive moments we've had with them, and it sounds like your Dad really instilled a love of science with the way he supported you.

My dad and grandfather approached my interests in very different ways. My dad never once told me, "You can't do that because you're a girl." My own teachers and classmates couldn't fathom my interest in science fiction, and they thought I was downright nuts because I'd read astronomy books for fun. Back when I was 12-13, I'd discovered the school library's copy of The Concise Atlas of the Universe, and I spent months reading and studying that. By the time the astronomy unit came along in Grade 8 science, I knew about the life cycles of the different types of stars. The teacher asked us what we thought of when we heard the word "astronomy" and when I uttered the words "stellar evolution," you could hear a pin drop. Then someone said in a disapproving tone, "Evolution?".

This was in the mid-1970s. County school. Mostly rural kids. Parents always voted Conservative because their parents always voted Conservative and so did their grandparents. And in the other direction, I suspect my former classmates carefully indoctrinated their own kids and grandkids in the dictum that "You will always vote Conservative and hate anyone named Trudeau." And don't talk about stuff like evolution. FFS, the biology textbook we used in Grade 10 had a disclaimer apologizing because the authors were "required" to discuss evolution and didn't want to offend any readers.

Anyway, the teacher opted not to make a fuss about that, and assigned us to write a term paper about "anything in the solar system." Of course everyone else promptly started arguing over who would get the library books about which planet first, and I decided not to get into that. I figured the Sun is part of the solar system, so I'd write about the Sun. I had no competition for the books either in the school library or the public library, and I had a couple of books at home with articles I could use. My great-aunt was also supportive of my interest in science, science fiction, and writing, and gave me a beautiful huge book with Reader's Digest articles about things like astronomy and penguins (the penguin article would come in handy a few years later when I wrote a term paper about them).

My grandfather, on the other hand, was about patriarchy. He told me I wasn't entitled to my own opinions until I was married, and then my opinions would be whatever my husband's opinions were. That caused a lot of arguments, as my grandfather was okay with my working in the theatre once. But after that? He didn't think it was appropriate.

Well, screw that. I worked backstage in musical theatre, and when you attend enough rehearsals and have the ability to play by ear (organ, for me; we discovered when I was 7 that I had this ability), you learn a lot of songs. My grandmother was especially happy about the songs I learned when we did Kiss Me, Kate and The Sound of Music. She loved waltzes, and there were some really nice ones in those shows.

My dad, whenever I asked his advice about something, would always start out by asking, "What do YOU think about it?/What do YOU want to do?" He never told me what to think. He did help me learn how to think about some things. As for the theatre, he liked music, and would happily whistle along if he liked a song I was playing on the organ. His favorites were the Irish Rovers songs I learned. And years later after I started working on the backstage crews at the new arts centre at the college, he couldn't be happier when I came home one day and announced that they'd taught me how to use an electric sander in the scene shop.

That was for a Shakespeare play - A Midsummer Night's Dream. They needed plain broomsticks, and the only ones available were painted. My job was to sand the paint off and find some actual twigs to make the sort of brooms that witches used. Well, this was in March, it was still winter, and the twigs around were still buried in the snow.

Except... we had a couple of bushes in the front yard. Caragana bushes. Very prickly things, even when bare in winter. I figured that was the best I could manage, so I took the hedge clippers and trimmed off about a boxful of it to use to make brooms. The bus driver was suspicious when I got on the bus carrying a large box of twigs. He wanted to know if I was bringing an animal on the bus. I told him no, since the twigs were really prickly and no animal would want to be in there with them.

Those bushes turned out to be therapeutic a few years later. I named them George, so whenever I was annoyed by what I heard on the nightly news, I could take the clippers and cut George Bush down to size.

Interesting that you mentioned Phil Currie, as I also have a story to share related to him. I think I've mentioned before having an Uncle who's a paleontologist. He and Phil Currie were well-acquainted. As it happened, he was going to be giving a lecture at our local science centre and had really been looking forward to it. My Uncle's Mother, ie, my Grandmother (not the one above) happened to have passed away, and I actually emailed Phil to express my disappointment that I wouldn't be making it out due to the funeral being that same day, then he passed on his condolences to my Uncle.

Wouldn't you know, I had actually met several times and gotten to know David Levy which the comet is named after? Both he and his wife were very prominent comet hunters, and the telescope he used to discover it will be part of an exhibit at a telescope museum in Toronto.

Well, I'm envious of that.

I was able to take an astronomy course at the college, in the year when Hale-Bopp came around. I happened to look up one night when a friend dropped me off at home, and there it was, up in the sky, plainly visible. I was so excited that later when I went shopping, I must've told everyone in the checkout line about the comet, and the next class we had, I was practically bouncing when I told the prof that "I saw Hale-Bopp last night! It was beautiful!" He said he was happy for me, and I think he was pleased to have an enthusiastic student. Again, this was a class that most of the students took because they considered it easy credit and didn't have to think too hard about it.

For me it was a chance to learn more about stuff I'd read about in Astronomy magazine and hadn't really understood very well. As I mentioned, I'm math-challenged. That astronomy class helped clear up a lot of confusion.

Some people are just really good at teaching confusing things. I'm thinking of Brian Cox, talking about the physics of waterfalls. That's something I'd never understood before, either.
 
For me it was a chance to learn more about stuff I'd read about in Astronomy magazine and hadn't really understood very well. As I mentioned, I'm math-challenged. That astronomy class helped clear up a lot of confusion.

Some people are just really good at teaching confusing things. I'm thinking of Brian Cox, talking about the physics of waterfalls. That's something I'd never understood before, either.
I am very interested in Astronomy. I've had different telescopes over the years. 4 years ago I sold my collection and downsized. I don't even know why I am posting about this but you mentioned Astronomy Magazine, but I just find it somewhat interesting enough to mention.

Telescopes I have owned are as follows.

- Celestron Powerseeker 130eq. I got this one as a Birthday or Christmas gift one year when I was younger. I had a lot of early memories with it until it got damaged, and sat in storage for years. It got covered with dust. I cleaned it off and sold it on Ebay.

- Celestron 114mm LCM. This one I got for Christmas one year. Great telescope. Easy, light to use. I never figured out how to use the computerized controls. I sold it 4 years ago.

- Meade Polaris 130mm. Big telescope. Clunky to use. Looked beautiful and got plenty of good use out of it. Sold it 4 years ago. It was in great condition but I wanted to downsize.

- Celestron Starsense Explorer DX102AZ. I set this up and the app never worked for me. I remember feeling very frustrated with this one, so I only had it a few days until I exchanged it for the Omni AZ 102.

- Celestron Omni AZ 102. This one at the time I had decided to downsize to. But I quickly decided it was not the one I wanted, and I sold it.

- Celestron Omni XLT 102. This is the one I have currently. Currently it is almost 3 years old and I am using an Explorer Scientific (if that is the right name for it) mount for it. I bought the Optical Tube used. Best telescope I have had since.

I also own the Astronomy Magazine Pluto Globe, as well as the Sky and Telescope Mercury globe. Both 12 inch. I have owned the Callisto, Titan, Io, Venus and Enceladus globes in the past but I sold those when downsizing my collection 2 years ago.
 
I am very interested in Astronomy. I've had different telescopes over the years. 4 years ago I sold my collection and downsized. I don't even know why I am posting about this but you mentioned Astronomy Magazine, but I just find it somewhat interesting enough to mention.

I can see that you're very committed to it. That is awesome. I've seen too many people via the club that I'm in who get frustrated with their telescope and leave the hobby.

The two most common things we see in the hobby, while some people like family members do mean well, end up gifting cheap inadequate scopes with wobbly mounts, usually with marketing focusing on power, and those are the kind of scopes that end up frustrating the most. The other issue we often see are newcomers coming into the hobby and buying expensive advanced computer-controlled scopes right off the bat, without learning the sky before hand, and needing help to set up their scopes because they haven't ended up learning the basics enough to set them up. Seriously, I've lost count how many times I've heard people needing help getting their scopes polar aligned.

One option most don't even realize they have is to make their own telescope. I belong to a telescope making club that has been around since the 1920's. They got into telescope making back then because the cost of commercial telescopes were prohibitively expensive, and it meant most people would have to mortage their houses, and most in town were working at a metalworks factory. They ground their own mirrors, held classes, and eventually their club was formed as it was found there was quite a bit of interest in keeping it going. The club recently celebrated its 100th year, and still puts on its yearly convention where people come from all over to display telescopes they've built. It's a craft that is highly rewarding, as you essentially make your own primary mirror and the scope itself entirely to the specifications you want. And by the end of the project, you have yourself a scope that you can view the stars and planets with that you've built yourself. There is something very grounding about that.

I don't consider myself tall, and most commercial scopes I find too tall, and I always have issues looking through eyepieces as a result. When it came time to building a scope of my own, I built it to my own specifications, as something that would be sitting closer to the ground, but also something perfectly usable for taller people as well.
 
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