I thought the transitions worked in as much as presenting "The Cage" as a stage play version of events, compared to the "real" way things looked in Discovery. Basically, covering the visual reboot.
The TOS footage in the episode "If Memory Serves"
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I understand that Melissa George's voice was blended with Susan Oliver's for the DSC episode!
It was also fun that Melissa George was a Big Deal in Australia, having previously played the long-running character of Angel in a TV soap opera, "Home & Away".
Do you have a link to any articles discussing this?
She used to star in a short lived show called Hunted as well
Found it:
"George’s portrayal of Vina didn’t just require building on the arc the character went through in 'The Cage' — it required going back to the pilot in a more literal sense too, apparently, even recording over lines of Oliver’s original dialogue so 'Discovery' could blend the two voices together for some moments, connecting the same character despite the half-century between performances...
"'They did put some of my voice on top of hers to kind of meld the two together. I couldn’t recreate her acting because so much has changed the way we act today. There’s a different kind of inflection. But I wanted to watch it and pay homage to her and the way the character felt....'"
Discovery's Surprise Guest Star on Bringing Some Classic Star Trek Back to Life
Last night’s fantastic episode of Star Trek: Discovery had a bunch going on—but one of the most fan-pleasing events was a trip back to where Star Trek
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Curious. I had a cursory look at Vina's dialogue in both episodes and didn't notice any lines that were the same. Assuming I didn't miss any (very possible!) I wonder where these melded lines supposedly are.Found it:
"George’s portrayal of Vina didn’t just require building on the arc the character went through in 'The Cage' — it required going back to the pilot in a more literal sense too, apparently, even recording over lines of Oliver’s original dialogue so 'Discovery' could blend the two voices together for some moments, connecting the same character despite the half-century between performances...
"'They did put some of my voice on top of hers to kind of meld the two together. I couldn’t recreate her acting because so much has changed the way we act today. There’s a different kind of inflection. But I wanted to watch it and pay homage to her and the way the character felt....'"
Discovery's Surprise Guest Star on Bringing Some Classic Star Trek Back to Life
Last night’s fantastic episode of Star Trek: Discovery had a bunch going on—but one of the most fan-pleasing events was a trip back to where Star Trek
Don't they mean that they blended Melissa's voice anew into Susan's for the flashback lines?
Do you mean the Previously On?If so, I hear nothing out of the ordinary but who knows.
Actually all thise episodes are early installments. First half of the very first season.
"Amok Time" is not early installment. Second season.
But Amok Time Spock was in pon farr so his emotion is attributed to that
You aren't salvaging this.
Why not? Spock just got over the fever a few minutes after he just supposedly murdered his captain and best friend. When he gets back to the Enterprise minutes later he finds out he didnt kill kirk. If he smiled because someone threw him a surprise birthday party I would agree. This was something way different. Easily explained.
Uh-huh.
Spock's elated to see Kirk alive, and he shows it. That's Spock's character.
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Some people always gloss over the canon that Vulcans don't lack emotions. They suppress them. Spock is much closer to the Tuvok end of the spectrum than the drug addict T'Pol end, but he still lets some smiles out. Kelvin Spock even cries.
It ends up making sense that he could be laughing at singing plants and ten years later he has that a bit more under control.
Half-Vulcan w/o Kolinahr
Some people always gloss over the canon that Vulcans don't lack emotions. They suppress them. Spock is much closer to the Tuvok end of the spectrum than the drug addict T'Pol end, but he still lets some smiles out. Kelvin Spock even cries.
It ends up making sense that he could be laughing at singing plants and ten years later he has that a bit more under control.
Indeed. Just look at Tuvok.
The Spock character was originally conceived as 'hot-blooded and emotional'. His home planet name Vulcan was chosen to reinforce that.
When GR was given the ultimatum that he could only keep either the character of Number One OR Mr. Spock <--- That's when GR changed Spock into what we know today, incorporating the logical and intellectual aspects of Number One into the Spock character and giving the Vulcans the history of once being highly volatile and emotional, but to survive as a species and not destroy themselves; embraced both logic and the total suppression of emotions.
Leonard Nimoy even said that after this change to his character, he had trouble 'finding' how to play this Spock in the first episode filmed post the 2nd pilot - The Corbomite Maneuver, and almost considered backing out but that the episode director Joseph Sargent really helped him find a way to play the changed character and become the Mr. Spock we all know.
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