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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x06 – “Come, Let’s Away”

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  • 10 - Excellent!

    Votes: 41 29.5%
  • 9

    Votes: 53 38.1%
  • 8

    Votes: 16 11.5%
  • 7

    Votes: 13 9.4%
  • 6

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • 5

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • 4

    Votes: 5 3.6%
  • 3

    Votes: 4 2.9%
  • 2

    Votes: 2 1.4%
  • 1- Terrible.

    Votes: 3 2.2%

  • Total voters
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An exciting episode with a decidedly more serious tone. I was particularly surprised when B'Avi died—I was secretly looking forward to seeing the cadets learn to cooperate instead of acting like rivals.

One thing that bothered me, though, was the question of why the trap was set. If the Venari Ral have a ship that can relatively easily destroy/disable the USS Sargasso with just two or three shots, why did they have to lure them away from the station? Couldn't they have simply attacked the station with their entire fleet?

Were the Sargasso's shields not down due to the banshee canon, whereas a full frontal assault wouldn't have had that impact.
 
If anything could have gotten me to watch PIC3 after the first couple of episodes it woukd have been Shaw.

But he wasn't enough, and I didn't.

Anytime anyone in a Starfleet uniform shows up without an aura of righteousness and a stick up their butt, a lot of fans are gonna like them.
 
An exciting episode with a decidedly more serious tone. I was particularly surprised when B'Avi died—I was secretly looking forward to seeing the cadets learn to cooperate instead of acting like rivals.

One thing that bothered me, though, was the question of why the trap was set. If the Venari Ral have a ship that can relatively easily destroy/disable the USS Sargasso with just two or three shots, why did they have to lure them away from the station? Couldn't they have simply attacked the station with their entire fleet?
Pretty sure the Sargasso's shields were down when the attack began. You can the shields activate after the first hit but by then it was too late and I'm pretty sure one of the shots may have taken out the Sargasso's bridge.

The Sargasso was most likely at J-19 not purely for defense but to also be to secure all the top secret goodies Starfleet was working on if the station was attacked. If the Venari Ral fleet had decloaked while the Sargasso was still present, it could have transported aboard all the tech and then warped away. The real problem is Starfleet only assigning one ship to defend a top secret research facility. but that is easily explained as Starfleet being complacent and underestimating the threat of the Venari Ral
 
Were the Sargasso's shields not down due to the banshee canon, whereas a full frontal assault wouldn't have had that impact.
Possibly. I didn't get it from the scene, but I'll watch it again when I get a chance.

That's one of the problems I have with newer Star Trek series - some plot developments don't get the screen time they need to seem plausible to me. That leaves me scratching my head, even though I like the show itself. But that could also be my problem—as a new dad, I mostly watch shows on my phone at inconvenient times these days :D
 
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Wait, wait, wait… all of that and you hadn’t even watched the fucking episode yet?!? Really, dude?
Never said I did. I clearly stated that I saw the stills and previews and WORRIED they were using a 23rd century ship again and used the snw bridge like the STD episode. You had mentioned they did. Later you said it was a ship from 100 years before. I admitted I was wrong after that. Ive watched up to the point of Baraca so ive seen the derelict ship. The redressed the snw bridge. While its clearly a redressed set im totally fine with it as long as it wasnt a 23rd century ship again.
 
I gave it a 9. Possibly the second best episode of the season.

There's a lack of detail in some of the late episode plans by the cadets that I'm not clear about, but they are made up for by being the most genuinely tense scenes of the series, and far more than anything in the pilot episode.

If you didn't like this episode you're not going to like this series.
 
I made the effort of isolating all of the “Tales from the Frontier” spreads they show in the episode (including the handful of individual panels they show) and unfortunately I don’t think they went to the trouble of creating an actual comic book for the episode. There doesn’t appear to be any sort of narrative coherence and the speech bubbles we do get to read contain kinda stock phrases like “And not a moment too soon!” or “This is not the world we were expecting”. Some of the same character illustrations and background images even seem to be reused throughout the pages.

I don’t see any super obvious signs of this being created using AI, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was. The art looks kinda bland and the layout of the panels doesn’t seem like a genuine comic to me. The only stuff I’m seeing that could be AI mistakes is the hand in that final individual panel apparently showing more than five fingers (if you count the knuckles) and the sun on the first panel seemingly shining through the rock formations in front of it. If it’s not AI it’s still obviously put together pretty hastily. So for everyone who was hoping this was going to be an upcoming IDW comic, I sure don’t think so. It’s more likely that someone in the art department just got the job of throwing together a few pages of a comic that could look believable if you only see it for a few frames.

What’s also a little odd are the uniforms, and I think it’s not unlikely that earlier versions of the script had the Miyazaki as a TOS-era ship. Maybe they changed it to a merely 100 year old ship when they added the idea of the singularity drive?

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I made the effort of isolating all of the “Tales from the Frontier” spreads they show in the episode (including the handful of individual panels they show) and unfortunately I don’t think they went to the trouble of creating an actual comic book for the episode. There doesn’t appear to be any sort of narrative coherence and the speech bubbles we do get to read contain kinda stock phrases like “And not a moment too soon!” or “This is not the world we were expecting”. Some of the same character illustrations and background images even seem to be reused throughout the pages.

I don’t see any super obvious signs of this being created using AI, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was. The art looks kinda bland and the layout of the panels doesn’t seem like a genuine comic to me. The only stuff I’m seeing that could be AI mistakes is the hand in that final individual panel apparently showing more than five fingers (if you count the knuckles) and the sun on the first panel seemingly shining through the rock formations in front of it. If it’s not AI it’s still obviously put together pretty hastily. So for everyone who was hoping this was going to be an upcoming IDW comic, I sure don’t think so. It’s more likely that someone in the art department just got the job of throwing together a few pages of a comic that could look believable if you only see it for a few frames.

What’s also a little odd are the uniforms, and I think it’s not unlikely that earlier versions of the script had the Miyazaki as a TOS-era ship. Maybe they changed it to a merely 100 year old ship when they added the idea of the singularity drive?

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I was hoping you would.

Its very Trek 09 IDW in style, so not sure its AI
 
After the doggy bag that was last episode.. This one was awesome. Gave it a 9. Very good, but some here's and there's that took it down.
Sad to see the vulcan kid get his chest turned into a canoe.. He was likeable this episode, compared to previous where he was an a$$..

So, A giant, see from space red flag straight from the go with the betazed girl either dying, or like happened in a coma. These people don't focus on someone like that unless there going to die ish.
That and the introduction of Red Shirt Tom in the first group. Knew he was going to be dead soon.

The banter between Paul and Holly was the best of the season. Finally gave them some time to talk, unlike the first episode.

For the Miyazaki.. did they just put trash bags on the corridoors? Seemed like it.

Okay. big miss is the Space Station. They can fortify DS9 to take on a whole fleet, but your weapons development lab/station can't?? And just 1 ship for defense? Federation is getting lazy. ( Or lazy writing again)
 
Never said I did. I clearly stated that I saw the stills and previews and WORRIED they were using a 23rd century ship again and used the snw bridge like the STD episode. You had mentioned they did. Later you said it was a ship from 100 years before. I admitted I was wrong after that. Ive watched up to the point of Baraca so ive seen the derelict ship. The redressed the snw bridge. While its clearly a redressed set im totally fine with it as long as it wasnt a 23rd century ship again.

There’s the concept of good faith discussions. Believe it or not, I don’t actually spend my day worrying about what TRON or anyone else on this board is or isn’t doing, nor do I go out of my way to read all of your or anyone else’s posts. If someone is talking in the episode discussion thread, I would presume that they’ve watched the episode and that we are on the same level of understanding regarding the episode. I for one don’t even typically click into the thread until I’ve watched it. But maybe that’s just me.

So, yes, I stated that they used the SNW bridge. I also made plenty of references to different productions utilizing the same sets in different time periods in Star Trek. I figured you were aware of the actual story of the episode. I was incorrect in my assumption.
 
The only stuff I’m seeing that could be AI mistakes is the hand in that final individual panel apparently showing more than five fingers (if you count the knuckles) and the sun on the first panel seemingly shining through the rock formations in front of it.
The hairstyles are inconsistent, and the uniform design varies from panel to panel. ...Blue has a mandarin collar in one random panel, they have a pointed-at-the-waist uniform top sometimes and not others, and sometimes they have the extra stitching across the shoulders from the JJ version.

I would absolutely bet it's at least partially Ai generated.
Let's see if an artist name ever surfaces. (Specifically listed as the art being drawn by, not just one who worked on it in general, because there's obviously some human work done on it. Someone went in and added a small flare to all the deltas for some reason.) :)
 
The hairstyles are inconsistent, and the uniform design varies from panel to panel. ...Blue has a mandarin collar in one random panel, they have a pointed-at-the-waist uniform top sometimes and not others, and sometimes they have the extra stitching across the shoulders from the JJ version.
I noticed all of those as well, but kinda put them in the category of mistakes a human artist might do as well, especially if they’re in a hurry and use different reference material. But yeah, the sheer variety on the uniforms and hairstyles could also be an indicator for the us of AI. There are definitively signs it was done by a person, too, though. AI wouldn’t flip the same character or background illustration to use as three different panels, for example.

Like you I would be curious to learn who was responsible for the comic book. :)
 
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