Kes saving Seven of Nine /Borg Queen lie.
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I don’t, but most viewers wouldn’t recall Kes saving Seven of Nine’s life. If I were a writer, I’d have her say, “Then why did an Ocampan female have to save my life?” Sadly, Berman and Braga would NEVER go there. Never.
The Queen was definitely manipulating Seven. However, I do believe after Seven survived she did allow her to remain on Voyager, being ever the opportunist, to gather information on humanity. It also explains how Voyager was able to survive so many Borg encounters relatively unscathed. During the alt timeline in the Destiny books Voyager got the treatment she should have always gotten from the Borg. 
Ouch!During the alt timeline in the Destiny books Voyager got the treatment she should have always gotten from the Borg.
I always try so hard to forget that line. I hate the twist of the villain rendering the hero's previous struggles and victories meaningless with the reveal of "that was my plan all along!" I have to assume the Queen was lying to Seven when she said that.
Imagine if the Drone they offered Janeway as a liaison in Scorpion was Steve, a Talaxian pedophile, with an annoying laugh, who wouldn't stop telling bullshit stories about how perfect the Universe would be if it was all Borg.
Or, imagine if the Drone they offered Janeway as a liaison in Scorpion was Kullah, who kept telling stories about how much he loved Seska and it's sad that Janeway killed her, and how awesome the Borg are.
Or, imagine if the Drone they offered Janeway as a liaison in Scorpion was the female Caretaker who's dementia was just starting, who was no help at all, and kept telling intricate stories about banging Banjoman in an early 20th century (holodeck) hayloft, and how the Borg are perfect.
But no, it's the daughter Janeway never got around to producing who Chakotay wanted to nail. It was only by having a beautiful blond, with connections to Earth and Starfleet, that Voyager's quasispaceracist crew would have gone an inch out of their way to "rescue" the evil drone sent to monitor their slavery, betray them and try to euthanize a liquid universe.
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Alright, touche. But that is the ONLY credible evidence that there might have been any truth in what the Borg Queen was saying.
Lets rock!
The Queen can't lie to herself. They are both Seven,
Scorpion 2
Luke Skywalker escaped the Death Star in a 60 year old junky clunker that had seen better days, assuming that blowing off two tie fighters out of space, was the height of heroism necessary to impress a princess, never once considering that Tarkin let them go, or that the baddies had stuck a tracker on the Falcon.
The pilots Luke and Han killed were ordered to die. They were told to fly into the falcons laser fire and explode like good little soldiers, in exchange for first class death benefits for their families. If they came home alive to the Death Star, all they had waiting for them was a firing squad.
The lowest tech, dumbest assholes, the kazon, chased Voyager for two years, finding varying degrees of success from their efforts. Dog with a fucking bone. All they wanted were replicators and to play soccer with small children in the street using Janeway's skull as a ball. 2 YEARS!
Voyager "30 days". A low tech ocean world sent a fleet after Voyager that pounded that little ship for 30 days and thirty nights, because humans are evil terrorists who have no %%cking business telling them how to live their lives or righteously codifying their morality. "You saved us from our own shortsightedness? Go fuxk yourself."
The Gift.
After one episode, less than a week, our intrepid Voyagers had outran a fleet of Transwarp vessels with a basic warp capable ship. That's like saying that saying you outran a jet liner in a hand glider. Transwarp is not just an engine that makes them go "vroom-vroom!". Transwarp sensors let you see clearly for a sizable fraction of however far you plan on traveling, so that you don't bump into shit or end up someplace stupid dangerous like the armpit of a star. If you can't see were you are going, when you are going there, you are an idiot.
The Borg always knew where Voyager was, and they did not care.
Not a threat.
However, when did the Queen think that they would catch tag and release Voyager like they were an endangered animal in a wild life preserve?
1. After their plan to assimilate Fluidic space failed, or 2. Moments before they gave the hero captain a weak victim princess to save from a dark evil queen? Every space adventurer is gagging for an epic quest pitting good vs. evil! It's why kathy get's up in the morning.
Or, imagine if the Drone they offered Janeway as a liaison in Scorpion was Magnus Hansen, who had most of the qualities that Janway was loooking for in a fancy man, after she'd killed his wife, becoming the perfect evil stepmother.
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That's my take, too. The whole of Dark Frontier plays basically as a metaphor for the Borg as a cult and Seven as the survivor who escaped but has gone back. Viewing the Queen with that metaphor in mind, everything she's saying is being carefully put forward to convince Seven that she's still one of them, that everything that she'd been through was an intentional act and that Seven's return was not just her choice but always her intent, rather than being the Borg coercing her to return to them or see Voyager assimilated or destroyed. The Queen puts forward statements that imply that this was what was always meant to happen, or leading ideas that suggest that Seven never truly left the Borg and was just the sleeper inserted into Voyager now returned for a debriefing.
It may not have been an intentional metaphor, granted, but the late nineties was also a time of a lot of doomsday cults in the headlines, so I can see it as being an unconscious undercurrent of the writing that fed in to the portrayal.
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