Idiots.
How bad is Andromeda?
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Idiots.
I never really understood the boneblades, because they never looked like they were attached to his forearms.
The looked like they were accessories to his gauntlets and not part of body and they looked flimsy as well.
The looked like they were accessories to his gauntlets and not part of body and they looked flimsy as well.
I always thought the bone blades made Tyr look like Batman.
The show suffered from having a makeup department that had no experience with alien prosthetics, as well as lacking the budget to do them well.
At least they were real, and not computer made like the tail. Barf had a real tail, and it had a mind of its own.
I really should check that one out some time, I absolutely loved the reboot with Maggie Q, Lyndsey Fonesca, and Shane West but I've never seen the original.
Oh, that's why she changed colors, I thought she just went through some kind of a metamorphosis.
Yeah, a good chunk of the show had gone by before I finally realized they were actually supposed to be part of the Nietzscheans' bodies and not part of the gauntlets they wore.
And the legal Youtube movies/TV channel has the entire series up free, with commercials of course (and for purchase as a second option):
Probably geo blocked in some countries.
Probably geo blocked in some countries.
Yeah, and Fawesome is not a very good app. As I recall, the ads were often quite slow to load, prolonging the interruptions of the shows.
Rhade stabs two guards with them in the first episode. You occasionally see them er....deployed? Spread out? when Tyr is fighting someone. I think there was only one episode where you see the bone blades sans gauntlets.
I enjoyed the 90s La Femme Nikita a lot — as I know I’ve said elsewhere, it may be dopey (if atmospheric) as a spy show, but it’s a great dark satire of life in the workplace. (If Star Trek can be said to partially be a fantasy about the workplace as meaningful, LFN is one about the workplace as soul-destroying.)
So you have fond memories of the fandom and it led you to your current job, that's a cool story, it really is and I understand why the show means a lot to you because of your biography but I don't see how that's refuting my arguments. Your personal story doesn't make Kevin Sorbo not a person who actively helped ruining the show and it also doesn't make the show not bad.
Okay, but what does that have to do with what I said? I didn't even address Kevin Sorbo's politics or whatever and I didn't denounce everything he ever had a hand in. I said custom him in Andromeda was the first mistake and I stand by that opinion.
I cannot see Sorbo pulling off Clark at all. And whatever people think of Dean Cain as an actor (because his current politics weren't an issue back then), at least he did his job and didn't throw his weight around changing the show into something he wanted it to be.
The show with Peta Wilson is actually the third remake.
The original would be the 1990 movie "Nikita" by Luc Besson (released as La Femme Nikita in the US), which was remade as Black Cat in Hong Kong and then as Point of No Return in the US (also known as Codename: Nina) before it became a tv show a few years later. During the run of the first show there was also a Bollywood version called Kartoos.
The Peta Wilson version was pretty good in my opinion but it got a bit old because they really stretched the premise out. The Maggie Q version was pretty good at making changes during its run to help keep the show fresh.
Just finished the next episode, "D Minus Zero".
The writing has gotten better, the chemistry is really solidifying, it's starting to come together.
The synth music is still hindering the experience.
But as enjoyable the mystery episode was, it hinged on one thing: NOBODY has windows on their ships or outside live-stream cameras. Just ... HOW is that possible?
The writing has gotten better, the chemistry is really solidifying, it's starting to come together.
The synth music is still hindering the experience.
But as enjoyable the mystery episode was, it hinged on one thing: NOBODY has windows on their ships or outside live-stream cameras. Just ... HOW is that possible?
Finished multiple episodes yesterday. The show has pretty much hit it's stride, early on. Then the annoying prison world episode (well, it's still good, but it was a couple of rungs down). And the weak synth scoring\ is still hindering the show.
The wise decision to not illuminate the ship like a Christmas tree on the inside like in the pilot, thus revealing the cheaper sets, has made it look much better.
I like how every character is getting moments demonstrating they aren't two-dimensional and are not just "there" and bring things to the series (well, Becca to a lesser extent -- so far -- and that is counting her brother episode).
And it's also well handled in regards to even though Hunt is the captain, everybody is still doing what they want and even plotting against him -- even his ship once and a didn't-happen second time. The battle isn't just on the outside, its on the inside, and a good double-sided metaphor.
I am disappointed in a certain aspect of Andromeda, in regards to Hunt, which doesn't make any sense given she's an A.I. program, but I won't get into that since there's always a chance this thread will inspire another user to start watching it.
Based on comments in this thread, I think maybe I should stop after season two -- apparently it just gets worse and insulting to fans.
Kevin Sorbo isn't the spry Herc' he once was and obviously can't really "lead" like he did here any longer, but if frail Patrick Stewart can "lead" a show, surely Kevin can. I would be all for a revival that picks up in real time where season two left off (ignore the mistakes user mention, in later seasons and de-canonize them) and take place some twenty-something years later -- see the fruits of Hunt's labor. Hey, if "Punky Brewster" can come back (and get canned again) surely this can be given a chance. "Babylon 5" had that recent animated film after all. This is a good property and the studio should see it as such.
The wise decision to not illuminate the ship like a Christmas tree on the inside like in the pilot, thus revealing the cheaper sets, has made it look much better.
I like how every character is getting moments demonstrating they aren't two-dimensional and are not just "there" and bring things to the series (well, Becca to a lesser extent -- so far -- and that is counting her brother episode).
And it's also well handled in regards to even though Hunt is the captain, everybody is still doing what they want and even plotting against him -- even his ship once and a didn't-happen second time. The battle isn't just on the outside, its on the inside, and a good double-sided metaphor.
I am disappointed in a certain aspect of Andromeda, in regards to Hunt, which doesn't make any sense given she's an A.I. program, but I won't get into that since there's always a chance this thread will inspire another user to start watching it.
Based on comments in this thread, I think maybe I should stop after season two -- apparently it just gets worse and insulting to fans.
Kevin Sorbo isn't the spry Herc' he once was and obviously can't really "lead" like he did here any longer, but if frail Patrick Stewart can "lead" a show, surely Kevin can. I would be all for a revival that picks up in real time where season two left off (ignore the mistakes user mention, in later seasons and de-canonize them) and take place some twenty-something years later -- see the fruits of Hunt's labor. Hey, if "Punky Brewster" can come back (and get canned again) surely this can be given a chance. "Babylon 5" had that recent animated film after all. This is a good property and the studio should see it as such.
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I would agree with that and then watch the coda clip that basically explains the rest of the intended story.
I made it just over halfway into season one yesterday. Some very quick thoughts:
* Given how a ship can be damaged by slipstream travel if not done properly, or even just flown into enemy hands, it's really surprising it's not an lockdown by Hunt, that just ANYBODY can get the ship going. No protocol for that, apparently.
* The forelance's being tied to the DNA of the owner, it retroactive. I remember two or three episodes at the start where that wasn't a thing.
* All these fancy technologies and potential uses and they are rarely realized.
* Why did Hunt stop after one failed reclaim of a Commonwealth ship? Becca said there was a list of like 30. He needs to continue. Having worlds join the Commonwealth is all well and good, but there is no force behind it. One ship alone isn't going to keep those against it or plotting against it, from warring on worlds who joined.
* How do you NOT ask Tyr what he's bringing aboard your ship? Especially given you know if he's bringing something about, it's going to inevitably give you trouble.
* I like the move that history is already written in stone -- you can't change it. This can set up plots later that still work within that realm, that could be fascinating. Sadly, doesn't appear that will happen now.
* If he has to pick apart crew quarters for spare parts, how is he not salvaging spare parts for the ship? You can only pick apart so much, especially given how often they are in damaging battles.
* Not a fan of the ship's design.
* The special effects have gotten better, but still a lot of poor stuff, which is questionable given this takes place in the waning years of "Star Trek: The Next Generation", but still looks worse than "Star Trek: Voyager" at times.
* The complexities and weaving of characters will sadly be missed as I get into season two. Holy disappointment, Batman!
* Given how a ship can be damaged by slipstream travel if not done properly, or even just flown into enemy hands, it's really surprising it's not an lockdown by Hunt, that just ANYBODY can get the ship going. No protocol for that, apparently.
* The forelance's being tied to the DNA of the owner, it retroactive. I remember two or three episodes at the start where that wasn't a thing.
* All these fancy technologies and potential uses and they are rarely realized.
* Why did Hunt stop after one failed reclaim of a Commonwealth ship? Becca said there was a list of like 30. He needs to continue. Having worlds join the Commonwealth is all well and good, but there is no force behind it. One ship alone isn't going to keep those against it or plotting against it, from warring on worlds who joined.
* How do you NOT ask Tyr what he's bringing aboard your ship? Especially given you know if he's bringing something about, it's going to inevitably give you trouble.
* I like the move that history is already written in stone -- you can't change it. This can set up plots later that still work within that realm, that could be fascinating. Sadly, doesn't appear that will happen now.
* If he has to pick apart crew quarters for spare parts, how is he not salvaging spare parts for the ship? You can only pick apart so much, especially given how often they are in damaging battles.
* Not a fan of the ship's design.
* The special effects have gotten better, but still a lot of poor stuff, which is questionable given this takes place in the waning years of "Star Trek: The Next Generation", but still looks worse than "Star Trek: Voyager" at times.
* The complexities and weaving of characters will sadly be missed as I get into season two. Holy disappointment, Batman!
No, not at all. It's a perfectly fine series. The only season I didnt care for was the last, and that was mainly due to being stuck in one local and a criminal lack of Lexa Doig (pregnancy reasons). It's not the greatest series ever made but it's by no means terrible and is perfectly watchable.
And his five year plan, when you read what he put out years later, sucked.
