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How bad is Andromeda?

I never really understood the boneblades, because they never looked like they were attached to his forearms.
The looked like they were accessories to his gauntlets and not part of body and they looked flimsy as well.
 
I never really understood the boneblades, because they never looked like they were attached to his forearms.
The looked like they were accessories to his gauntlets and not part of body and they looked flimsy as well.

The show suffered from having a makeup department that had no experience with alien prosthetics, as well as lacking the budget to do them well.
 
That show was really ahead of its time, developed a cult following, and is worth checking out for anyone that missed it and likes spy-fy. Free to stream on Roku channel, but it's stuck in SD.

Rare early case of actually pulling off dark and morally ambiguous.
I really should check that one out some time, I absolutely loved the reboot with Maggie Q, Lyndsey Fonesca, and Shane West but I've never seen the original.
Although her bigger executive-mandated character change was seven episodes later, in the last episode made before Robert Hewitt Wolfe was fired, where she was replaced by her older, gold-skinned future self.
Oh, that's why she changed colors, I thought she just went through some kind of a metamorphosis.
I never really understood the boneblades, because they never looked like they were attached to his forearms.
The looked like they were accessories to his gauntlets and not part of body and they looked flimsy as well.
Yeah, a good chunk of the show had gone by before I finally realized they were actually supposed to be part of the Nietzscheans' bodies and not part of the gauntlets they wore.
 
Andromeda is free on Peacock. Free on The Roku Channel, Fandango at Home and CW with ads. Seasons 2-5 are free on Prime Video but with ads. Also free on something I've never heard of before called Fawesome.tv and I assume that must have ads too.
 
Yeah, a good chunk of the show had gone by before I finally realized they were actually supposed to be part of the Nietzscheans' bodies and not part of the gauntlets they wore.

If they had actually done something with the boneblades, like stabbing someone, instead of being merely decorative, then they would have been justified.
Maybe they were trying to keep the level of violence down, so they weren't overt about it.
 
If they had actually done something with the boneblades, like stabbing someone, instead of being merely decorative, then they would have been justified.
Maybe they were trying to keep the level of violence down, so they weren't overt about it.
Rhade stabs two guards with them in the first episode. You occasionally see them er....deployed? Spread out? when Tyr is fighting someone. I think there was only one episode where you see the bone blades sans gauntlets.
 
That show was really ahead of its time, developed a cult following, and is worth checking out for anyone that missed it and likes spy-fy. Free to stream on Roku channel, but it's stuck in SD.

Rare early case of actually pulling off dark and morally ambiguous.
I enjoyed the 90s La Femme Nikita a lot — as I know I’ve said elsewhere, it may be dopey (if atmospheric) as a spy show, but it’s a great dark satire of life in the workplace. (If Star Trek can be said to partially be a fantasy about the workplace as meaningful, LFN is one about the workplace as soul-destroying.)
 
Well, I have to disagree, because I still have fond memories of the online Andromeda fan community, which generated connections well beyond the show itself. I probably wouldn't be a member of this BBS if I hadn't come here from its sister Andromeda board, and it was on this BBS that I made the acquaintance of the Star Trek novel editors who eventually gave me the opportunity to write for them, launching my career as a novelist. So I owe a lot to Andromeda's existence, and thus in some small way I owe something to Kevin Sorbo for his participation in its creation, though his part in the process was small.
So you have fond memories of the fandom and it led you to your current job, that's a cool story, it really is and I understand why the show means a lot to you because of your biography but I don't see how that's refuting my arguments. Your personal story doesn't make Kevin Sorbo not a person who actively helped ruining the show and it also doesn't make the show not bad.

I just don't like the tendency to reduce a problematical person to a single value of "bad," to uniformly denounce everything they ever had a hand in. Life is not that simplistic. A person whose overall impact is negative can still be responsible for some positive things, even if it's in spite of themselves. I think if we erase the positives because we're angry about the negatives, that just makes things more negative overall.
Okay, but what does that have to do with what I said? I didn't even address Kevin Sorbo's politics or whatever and I didn't denounce everything he ever had a hand in. I said custom him in Andromeda was the first mistake and I stand by that opinion.

Okay how about Kevin Sorbo for Clark Kent/Superman instead of Dean Cain, as Kevin auditioned for the role.
I cannot see Sorbo pulling off Clark at all. And whatever people think of Dean Cain as an actor (because his current politics weren't an issue back then), at least he did his job and didn't throw his weight around changing the show into something he wanted it to be.

I really should check that one out some time, I absolutely loved the reboot with Maggie Q, Lyndsey Fonesca, and Shane West but I've never seen the original.
The show with Peta Wilson is actually the third remake.
The original would be the 1990 movie "Nikita" by Luc Besson (released as La Femme Nikita in the US), which was remade as Black Cat in Hong Kong and then as Point of No Return in the US (also known as Codename: Nina) before it became a tv show a few years later. During the run of the first show there was also a Bollywood version called Kartoos.

The Peta Wilson version was pretty good in my opinion but it got a bit old because they really stretched the premise out. The Maggie Q version was pretty good at making changes during its run to help keep the show fresh.
 
Just finished the next episode, "D Minus Zero".

The writing has gotten better, the chemistry is really solidifying, it's starting to come together.

The synth music is still hindering the experience.

But as enjoyable the mystery episode was, it hinged on one thing: NOBODY has windows on their ships or outside live-stream cameras. Just ... HOW is that possible?
 
Finished multiple episodes yesterday. The show has pretty much hit it's stride, early on. Then the annoying prison world episode (well, it's still good, but it was a couple of rungs down). And the weak synth scoring\ is still hindering the show.

The wise decision to not illuminate the ship like a Christmas tree on the inside like in the pilot, thus revealing the cheaper sets, has made it look much better.

I like how every character is getting moments demonstrating they aren't two-dimensional and are not just "there" and bring things to the series (well, Becca to a lesser extent -- so far -- and that is counting her brother episode).

And it's also well handled in regards to even though Hunt is the captain, everybody is still doing what they want and even plotting against him -- even his ship once and a didn't-happen second time. The battle isn't just on the outside, its on the inside, and a good double-sided metaphor.

I am disappointed in a certain aspect of Andromeda, in regards to Hunt, which doesn't make any sense given she's an A.I. program, but I won't get into that since there's always a chance this thread will inspire another user to start watching it.

Based on comments in this thread, I think maybe I should stop after season two -- apparently it just gets worse and insulting to fans.



Kevin Sorbo isn't the pray Herc he once was and obviously can't really "lead" like he did here any longer, but if frail Patrick Stewart can "lead" a show, surely Kevin can. I would be all for a revival that picks up in real time where season two left off (ignore the mistakes user mention, in later seasons and de-canonize them) and take place some twenty-something years later -- see the fruits of Hunt's labor. Hey, if "Punky Brewster" can come back (and get canned again) surely this can be given a chance. "Babylon 5" had that recent animated film after all. This is a good property and the studio should see it as such.
 
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