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Spoilers Star Trek: The Last Starship

I find it odd that the Tal Shiar would still exist. It’d be like having the KGB in a United Europe. Surely there’d be a new organisation with clean hands to start with.
 
I find it odd that the Tal Shiar would still exist. It’d be like having the KGB in a United Europe. Surely there’d be a new organisation with clean hands to start with.

Well, the V'Shar still exist in TNG, so no reason to expect the Tal'Shiar wouldn't. Perhapd the V'Shar got subsumed into the latter when Vulcan and Romulus merged.
 
Well, the V'Shar still exist in TNG, so no reason to expect the Tal'Shiar wouldn't.

Of course there's a reason. That's like expecting modern Germany to still have the SS. The last thing a liberated society would want to do is to preserve the oppressive instruments of the old authoritarian regime.

Besides, it's disingenuous to equate an intelligence agency with a secret police. An intelligence agency's goal (in principle, at least) is to control potential threats to protect its people. A secret police's goal is to control its people to protect the regime.
 
Of course there's a reason. That's like expecting modern Germany to still have the SS. The last thing a liberated society would want to do is to preserve the oppressive instruments of the old authoritarian regime.

Besides, it's disingenuous to equate an intelligence agency with a secret police. An intelligence agency's goal (in principle, at least) is to control potential threats to protect its people. A secret police's goal is to control its people to protect the regime.

Could I ask that you perhaps consider the tone in which you respond to me in future - or just ignore my posts? In two different threads this week, youve misquoted and misrepresented things Ive said. You drove me away from this board for a long period once before, and I know of others who have said the same, and Id rather that didnt happen again.
 
In two different threads this week, youve misquoted and misrepresented things Ive said.

I used the quote function to insert your sentence verbatim. I did not edit it in any way beyond omitting the second sentence of your post. Anyone who reads the posts can see that for themselves.
 
Well, the V'Shar still exist in TNG, so no reason to expect the Tal'Shiar wouldn't. Perhapd the V'Shar got subsumed into the latter when Vulcan and Romulus merged.
Yeah, but V'Shar isn't infamous for selling out their own people for an unelected robophobic cabal. I would argue the name Tal Shiar cannot be separated from evil.
 
I find it odd that the Tal Shiar would still exist. It’d be like having the KGB in a United Europe. Surely there’d be a new organisation with clean hands to start with.
So it looks like we've got another entry for the list of creative decisions made Colin Kelly & Jackson Lanzing that I completely disagree with.
 
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