Is it time to put Star Trek to rest?
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Wasn't that Fuller's original idea for Discovery? An anthology show where each season was a different time period, from TOS through TNG? Too bad we didn't get that.
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In a way we kind of did, since IIRC the first season of Picard started as an idea for a potential future season of that anthology series.
You mean Babylon 5?
I enjoy both shows, even though I'm only half-way through B5 (what I've seen is a little bit ahead of where I'm at in my re-watch thread), but I'm still giving this post a like anyway!You mean Babylon 5?
I think people do only watch something if they want to watch it. Hatewatchers, “have-to watchers”, habitual watchers, completionists, and every single person who says they don’t want to watch but watch anyway? They want to watch it. If they didn’t, they’d stop. If they don’t stop but say they wish they weren’t watching? Such are literally lying to themselves.
Statler & Waldorf are The Muppet Show’s greatest, most devoted fans.
That reminds me of something Andy Rooney once said after a controversial installment of 60 Minutes. I don't remember the episode, and it doesn't matter which one it was, but I do remember what he said. "And to those of you who said you'd never watch 60 Minutes again, thanks for watching!"
After he was taken off the air for a month in the 90's for saying there were "Too many homosexual unions" or was it something else?
He may have been an unpleasant fellow (I know nothing about this), but that doesn’t change the result that if they watched, they watched.
It was in the '00s. I honestly don't even remember what he was talking about, just that zinger.
EDITED TO ADD: I just looked it up. Curiosity killed the cat. It was indeed the '00s. November 5th, 2003. He was talking about political divisions during the Bush Era. Just imagine what he'd think about how ugly things are today!
And that concludes our tangent. Getting this back on track:
At some point, I might watch some of whatever I haven't watched Trek-wise, but it isn't a priority at present. It all depends on my mood and what I want to make time for. I've got my DS9 and VOY Re-Watches for my Trek fix. YouTube Reactors too. I love For All Mankind. I'm enjoying Babylon 5. And, on the side, I like watching movies I'd never heard of before. Right now, I'm working my way through a 1975 Stanley Kubrick film called Barry Lyndon. If anyone's interested in watching a three-hour film about the journeys of a wandering soldier in the mid-1700s, I recommend it. I put it on whenever I have time, then get back to it. Watching it kind of feels like I'm reading a novel, even though I'm not. If that makes any sense.
So, I don't think Star Trek needs a rest. It can keep going and I'll catch up with it some other time.
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This belongs in the controversial opinions thread, but although there have been some momentary highs, DS9 was the last Trek show that wasn’t just excellent Trek but excellent as a television show in its own right.
I might not agree with you. But then again, I might. Food for thought.
I adore SNW. But would I if I didn't also love Star Trek? (The fact that I am LESS happy when they make needless Star Trek references might make me think "Yes". But who knows?)
"Hate watch" might not necessarily apply. I didn't really like Voyager, but I watched it because I wanted to have informed discussions about it here. Same with Enterprise. Discovery, tho, was just too bad for me, so I gave up on that practice and just don't discuss it ('cause I can't!). SNW looked like it might be the closest thing to TOS in a long time, so I'm watching it with hope. So far it's 50-50. There have been really good dramatic episodes. Their supposed comedies fail for me. And not one of the TOS characters they've shoehorned into the series remotely resembles the original in manner or appearance. But the occasional ep I enjoy makes it worthwhile in this case.
I have enjoyed Disco, SNW, Short Treks and LD. Pro I just don't know enough about. I'm obviously not crazy about PIC but it had potential. Of all of them SNW has been the best done with the most effort. Doing the time period they were in with modern progressive stances and special effects that didn't require cardboard was going to leave some of fandom behind. But there was no way of pleasing such people, really, the only advertising demographic going after them are fake remedies, the pillow guy, and buy gold, so it wasn't a big loss.
It's hilarious and sad to me to hear fans who might argue about "Picard should have made peace with the Borg" or even "Superman would never kill Zod" have such a hard time sharing Star Trek with people who might watch the wrong TV channel.
In the interest of IDIC, how did any Star Trek have ever appealed to such undesirables?
I asked a coworker that a few years ago. He liked TOS a lot. He got out of it a good adventure with attractive women showing a lot of leg. He felt Star Trek got too liberal in the 90’s and he had no interest in watching anything new. He made it be the show it was in his head and ignored the rest. I think in his mind Kirk got laid every episode and the bad guys were basically always Krushchev.
Everyone does. Progs do it too.
No.
Trek is fine if it's written the right way. Yeah, DSC and big chunks of PIC weren't top tier Trek but SNW, PRO and to a lesser extend LD deliver, and as long as Trek can keep me engaged and wanting more I don't want it "put to rest."
Trek is fine if it's written the right way. Yeah, DSC and big chunks of PIC weren't top tier Trek but SNW, PRO and to a lesser extend LD deliver, and as long as Trek can keep me engaged and wanting more I don't want it "put to rest."
Nope.
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