Spoilers Alien Earth (2025 Hulu show)

[FPAlpha]

Seems like that ship was still doomed even without the saboteur because the science officer apparently studied at the School of Prometheus.

At some point this occured to me too. I mean how incompetent/careless were these people and they knew they were carrying highly dangerous alien specimen of which they knew very little about.

This whole ship should have been one giant flying lockdown cage with tripwires, liquid nitrogen all over ready to freeze everything T-1000 style and a batallion of Colonial Marines as backup. Especially when we know how much value W-Y is placing on this transport.

Then again i work in logistics and i know how careless people can get over time even with dangerous goods, much less over 65 years in a small and closed group. Humans just aren't built to be operating at a 100% over such a long stretch of time, small mistakes turn into habits and these are extremely hard to shake off.

What's even more terrifying than the monster designs themselves is their intelligence. We know that the Xenomorph has exhibited very sophisticated tactics but then again so does every high level predator on Earth. Eyeball alien seems almost human in its intelligence, did that thing try to actually warn the human scientist about the impending escape of the slugh aliens?

What if it itself is not malevolent at all, it's just misfortunate that it appears as a monster to us when it only wants to communicate ( but then again why take over the engineer, most likely killing him?)

If they existed in real life, I’d agree that they might just be “presenting” as conscious without actually being self-aware, just machines simulating it. But in-story, we’ve seen a lot through their eyes — with Wendy in particular being a major protagonist — so I think we’re supposed to take it as a given that whatever they are, they’re conscious. (Likewise Data!)

Maybe the children AI's are the result of them itself not being self aware and just replicating a child's mind and simulating its life and reactions? If they're AI at all, that is.

I hope they address this this season, this episode returned to the familiar Alien template ( though done well), i hope the next episode continues the world building.

 

[Nerys Myk]

So did the Maginot get all those creatures from just one planet? Must've been a hell of a planet. We heard they lost some crew collecting the specimens, but it's amazing any of them survived.

Space Australia.

 

[Captaindemotion]

I said after the first episode that Hawley often does an episode that goes up his own bum. Fortunately we haven’t gotten that but I should’ve remembered also that he also often does flashback episodes and tonight we got that in spades. And what an episode it was. A mini-Alien movie. In that hour or so, the crew were well-depicted and characterised and it was a delight as always to see Michael Smiley again.

As someone else said, the other aliens are in their own way scarier and certainly ickier than the classic xenomorph and that was definitely shown tonight, especially with the ticks and also how the eyeball creature seemed to manage to scare the titular alien,

The episode also humanised Morrow while also reinforcing what a ruthless bastard he is.

So far, while I really enjoyed Romulus, I’m finding this series to be the best in the Alien franchise since Aliens.

 

[JD]

Also...I found it quite curious that the eyeball octopus tried to warn foolish Chibuzo that the tick was breaking free from its capsule. I wonder why...

Yeah, it's starting to look like The Eye might not be so bad afterall. It warned her about The Tick that escaped, and while it took over the engineer we don't know for a fact it killed him since it had already taken him over when we saw it, it didn't kill the captain when it had the opportunity, and then it attacked the Xenomorph and allowed the captain to get away.

So Weyland Yutani is based in Chicago. (That was Chicago, right?) I can dig it. And speaking of digging it, Yutani's personal guards were wild looking. What headgear!

I was wondering what city that was.

So did the Maginot get all those creatures from just one planet? Must've been a hell of a planet. We heard they lost some crew collecting the specimens, but it's amazing any of them survived. Modern 2025 thinking would probably just have drones and robots collecting the specimens, while the humans waited safely back at the ship.

I had assumed it picked them up at different points throughout the 65 years they were out.

I wonder if the acting Captain is still alive. They spent a lot of time with her and we never saw the alien kill her.

I doubt it, it looked like the Xenomorph was doing some pretty serious damage when it attacked her at the end.
I was a little shocked we got to see what happened to the Maginot in this much detail, but it was nice to get to see the crew again and find out exactly what happened.
I missed, what did the Marrow's message from Wayland-Yutani say? From his reaction I'm assuming something happened to his daughter?
I'm curious what is exactly was up with Tang, because that guy was seriously weird and creepy.
I think The Ticks might be taking The Eye's place as the creepiest aliens.

 

[Commander Troi]

I missed, what did the Marrow's message from Wayland-Yutani say? From his reaction I'm assuming something happened to his daughter?

She died in a fire.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

She died in a fire.

At age 18, a mere 8 years (I think) into his mission.

...supposedly. I'm not entirely sold she actually died.

 

[JD]

She died in a fire.

OK, thanks.

 

[Verteron]

These space missions must pay well. 60 years in the void!

Even if Morrow's daughter had survived, when he returns she'd be 70.

Shmuel left his wife behind on Earth aged 30, when he returns she'd be 90, if she even lived that long.

Maybe they get an advance so their families can have a good life while they're gone? I can't imagine deciding to do a mission like this unless you are desperate and/or don't have any real family back home.

And also imagine the culture shock, the equivalent would be the difference between 1965 and 2025. The change in culture, politics, entertainment, technology, values. By the time you came back, the world you left would have all but gone.

 

[Set Harth]

Oh, in-universe I don’t think there’s any question that the kids are conscious. The question is whether they are the kids, or are they new beings with identical memories that several kids were murdered to create?

They could have avoided this question entirely if they had transferred the brains over.

Weyland Yutani is based in Chicago.

Makes sense.

 

[Saul]

Maybe they get an advance so their families can have a good life while they're gone? I can't imagine deciding to do a mission like this unless you are desperate and/or don't have any real family back home.

That's the only way it works in my mind. That the life they can give their family is way beyond anything they could do on Earth.

And also imagine the culture shock, the equivalent would be the difference between 1965 and 2025. The change in culture, politics, entertainment, technology, values. By the time you came back, the world you left would have all but gone.

Right. But Morrow seems to adjust to it quite well and be able to survive and get around by himself.

 

[NCC-73515]

Like the Malon said, they do the literally dirty work and die early, and their money goes to the family

 

[Aragorn]

Did eyeball alien warn or distract the scientist lady?

 

[NCC-73515]

See above, distract

 

[Starkers]

I imagine all of those who were upset that they didn't get to see the slaughtering the Maginot crew are happy now, even if the xenomorph didn't do all of the killing.

I will say I was surprised we got a full flashback episode that showed the fates of the Maginot but the show used that opportunity well. It wasn't quite Alien redux (in fact, it had touches of people's least favorite part of Prometheus, dumb scientists) because the driving force of the episode was to understand Morrow and his motivations. My heart went out to him about his daughter dying young and early into his mission...although with this show, I wouldn't be surprised if that turns out to be a lie to manipulate Morrow.

The rest of the crew were pretty worthless in their own special ways but I enjoyed watching them nonetheless if only because of character actors Richa Moorjani, Karen Aldridge, and Michael Smiley.

My skin absolutely shivered at the sight of the ticks crawling over Malachite's lungs in his open chest. That was almost as bad as the cat!

Speaking of which...I loved watching our favorite eyeball octopus wrecking havoc and facing off against the xenomorph! I don't remember who said it in this thread earlier, but they're probably right that this is why the xenomorph doesn't have eyes!

Also...I found it quite curious that the eyeball octopus tried to warn foolish Chibuzo that the tick was breaking free from its capsule. I wonder why...

That was me!

I wonder if the acting Captain is still alive. They spent a lot of time with her and we never saw the alien kill her.

I wondered this as well. She gets battered but we don't see her die... but maybe I'm just thinking that because I want more Richa Moorjani

Seems like that ship was still doomed even without the saboteur because the science officer apparently studied at the School of Prometheus.

I'm going to be a little forgiving. The guys in Prometheus were fresh and had barely arrived, these guys have been in space for a long time, they're tired and bored and complacent.

These space missions must pay well. 60 years in the void!

Even if Morrow's daughter had survived, when he returns she'd be 70.

Shmuel left his wife behind on Earth aged 30, when he returns she'd be 90, if she even lived that long.

Maybe they get an advance so their families can have a good life while they're gone? I can't imagine deciding to do a mission like this unless you are desperate and/or don't have any real family back home.

And also imagine the culture shock, the equivalent would be the difference between 1965 and 2025. The change in culture, politics, entertainment, technology, values. By the time you came back, the world you left would have all but gone.

Nah I've seen Discovery, you can apparently travel 1000 years in the future and very little will have changed

 

[Starkers]

Anyway, that was incredible. Hands down the best Alien 'movie' after Alien and Aliens now (though I'd still place the series as a whole below Romulus at the moment but episode 5 is definitely above Romulus if that makes sense!)

Homaging Alien whilst doing something very different is a tricky thing to pull off, but Hawley managed it in spades. As others have said, it humanises Morrow which in turn iddly makes him even more cold blooded. Clearly WY is all he has left. Interesting that we now see Kavalier is even worse than we imagined!

Who knew the xenomorph wouldn't wind up the scariest thing in the Alien universe!

 

[Set Harth]

The last time I watched Romulus, in the early part of the movie I was like "this is better than Alien Earth" but by the end I was like "Alien Earth is better than this".

 

[valkyrie013]

It was an okay episode, I like elements like Marrow and Squid Eye .. But the crew.. omg.. the crew was clown shoes.
I can forgive the original Alien in that the crew was basically "Space Truckers" in that they were just civilians running freight.
This? This is a travesty.. A "Hand Picked" Crew sent out for 65 years to pick up anything they find. The promethus crew were MIT Grads compared to these incompetents. Tsing? what use was he being awake? Scientist messing with the ticks? Moron. Doc? .. ugh..
It had good scenes but this show is suffering from Andor Disease.. Your concept doesnt fill the time, and your filler sucks.

Best things in this series is Squidward and Marrow.. all the other.. meh.

 

[Set Harth]

It had good scenes but this show is suffering from Andor Disease.. Your concept doesnt fill the time, and your filler sucks.

looking at you, Five Hands

 

[valkyrie013]

Thought Exersize.. ( me blabing..)
Crew of the Maginot.. Mission, to go out there visit worlds, and see what specimens you can find and bring back for study.
Ok.
Crew.. for the Ship, Captain, Pilots, doctor, Mechanics.
Away Team, Pilots for the drop ship, crew to go on planet and pick up said specimens, Scientists/biologists that would find the specimens also a team with military training to procure the specimens for the return flight.
Prometheus got the right for the most part.

What we got.
Bunch of numbskulls .. Captain, check, Pilot? who knows. Doctor, Mostly, Mechanic Check. Crew to go on planet and pick up specimens? Check? ( didn't seem like they were capable of picking up a roach) Scientists and biologists? Check? ( I.E. Moron)

I think it would have been a better episode if you had a competent crew that were doing everything 'Right" and still fail then having the bad news bears as a crew.

 

[DigificWriter]

Setting aside my opinions about whether Noah Hawley's recent comments have any authoritative weight, I've come to the conclusion that the simplest way to approach the Alien IP is to treat it as if it's a bunch of sub-franchises, Transformers-style, with the Ridley Scott-produced movies (Prometheus to Alien: Resurrection) being one sub-franchise, the AvP movies being another sub-franchise, and now this show being yet another sub-franchise.