Spoilers Alien Earth (2025 Hulu show)
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I don't think this show or Andor are action shows. The "action" is more filler than not.
A slower burn of an episode but still very good. It's disturbing how many of the kids are being groomed/manipulated in some way. The most obvious example is Morrow/Slightly but Kavalier is manipulating Culy and Wendy and you could even say Kirsh is grooming Tootles in some respects, letting him choose a name and giving him the illusion of free will.
Nibs is the one most obviously cracking up but I think all the kids of issues, the only exception being maybe Smee but that's probably because we haven't got to him yet. I think the show and the actors are doing a good job of portraying kids in adult bodies.
Re Nibs I think it was obvious even when she was a child that she didn't understand what was happening to her and didn't realise that the transition was final.
In an ideal world where a corporation gave a shit Prodigy should have transferred the kids into replicas of their child bodies, given them a year or two to get used to a synthetic body and then placed them in adult bodies.
The show exploring existential questions about consciousness and what it means to be human is wonderful though, but also accessible.
Eyeball alien remains the most terrifying thing in the show. I did wonder about it taking over a xenomorph but then xenomorphs don't have eyes!
Who knows maybe this is why xenomorph's don't have eyes?
Glad they didn't put Hermit's lung back in him! Might be a brief respite because Slightly obviously plans on using him as a carrier for Morrow. It is interesting that Kirsh knows and is, for the moment, doing nothing. Kavalier and Atom are dirtbags, but they're recognisable dirtbags. I do wonder if Kirsh is going to turn out to be the true villain of the show (or the true hero I feel like he could go either way)
Glad we saw the chest burster in all its glory, the one ropey bit of Alien was always how it scooted off from the table after bursting out which looks silly (did it have legs? We never knew). Is Wendy going to have a pet xenomorph?
Kirsh said the eyeball alien was intelligent, I guess we don't know how intelligent. Smarter than an animal, 20th century human smart or smarter than the 22nd century humans? I get a few The Thing vibes from it.
And we still have the other alien lifeforms to throw into the mix!
Guessing Hermit's squad mates are going to come in very handy in the finale when, I'm presuming, all hell will break loose on the island!
Nibs is the one most obviously cracking up but I think all the kids of issues, the only exception being maybe Smee but that's probably because we haven't got to him yet. I think the show and the actors are doing a good job of portraying kids in adult bodies.
Re Nibs I think it was obvious even when she was a child that she didn't understand what was happening to her and didn't realise that the transition was final.
In an ideal world where a corporation gave a shit Prodigy should have transferred the kids into replicas of their child bodies, given them a year or two to get used to a synthetic body and then placed them in adult bodies.
The show exploring existential questions about consciousness and what it means to be human is wonderful though, but also accessible.
Eyeball alien remains the most terrifying thing in the show. I did wonder about it taking over a xenomorph but then xenomorphs don't have eyes!
Who knows maybe this is why xenomorph's don't have eyes?
Glad they didn't put Hermit's lung back in him! Might be a brief respite because Slightly obviously plans on using him as a carrier for Morrow. It is interesting that Kirsh knows and is, for the moment, doing nothing. Kavalier and Atom are dirtbags, but they're recognisable dirtbags. I do wonder if Kirsh is going to turn out to be the true villain of the show (or the true hero I feel like he could go either way)
Glad we saw the chest burster in all its glory, the one ropey bit of Alien was always how it scooted off from the table after bursting out which looks silly (did it have legs? We never knew). Is Wendy going to have a pet xenomorph?
Kirsh said the eyeball alien was intelligent, I guess we don't know how intelligent. Smarter than an animal, 20th century human smart or smarter than the 22nd century humans? I get a few The Thing vibes from it.
And we still have the other alien lifeforms to throw into the mix!
Guessing Hermit's squad mates are going to come in very handy in the finale when, I'm presuming, all hell will break loose on the island!
Not to go into details but it's one thing to get mauled by a shark, a lion or some other large animal but there are little critters out there or bacteria/viruses that are beyond horrible in their effect on the human or any living body.
We already know how terrifying the Xenomorph is, that eyeball alien is on another level because of its capability but also because it is so far removed from the humanoid template that we simply can't relate to it and it scares us because of it ( this is why so many people are afraid of spiders and snakes).
And i dare not even think what the others are capable of ( well we know that worm/centipede is horrible too) but that hanging plant tentacle thing is giving me major creeps too.
Oh yeah, there are some seriously creepy things out there, especially when you start going into places like the deep ocean or jungles.
I imagine all of those who were upset that they didn't get to see the slaughtering the Maginot crew are happy now, even if the xenomorph didn't do all of the killing.
I will say I was surprised we got a full flashback episode that showed the fates of the Maginot but the show used that opportunity well. It wasn't quite Alien redux (in fact, it had touches of people's least favorite part of Prometheus, dumb scientists) because the driving force of the episode was to understand Morrow and his motivations. My heart went out to him about his daughter dying young and early into his mission...although with this show, I wouldn't be surprised if that turns out to be a lie to manipulate Morrow.
The rest of the crew were pretty worthless in their own special ways but I enjoyed watching them nonetheless if only because of character actors Richa Moorjani, Karen Aldridge, and Michael Smiley.
My skin absolutely shivered at the sight of the ticks crawling over Malachite's lungs in his open chest. That was almost as bad as the cat!
Speaking of which...I loved watching our favorite eyeball octopus wrecking havoc and facing off against the xenomorph! I don't remember who said it in this thread earlier, but they're probably right that this is why the xenomorph doesn't have eyes!
Also...I found it quite curious that the eyeball octopus tried to warn foolish Chibuzo that the tick was breaking free from its capsule. I wonder why...
I will say I was surprised we got a full flashback episode that showed the fates of the Maginot but the show used that opportunity well. It wasn't quite Alien redux (in fact, it had touches of people's least favorite part of Prometheus, dumb scientists) because the driving force of the episode was to understand Morrow and his motivations. My heart went out to him about his daughter dying young and early into his mission...although with this show, I wouldn't be surprised if that turns out to be a lie to manipulate Morrow.
The rest of the crew were pretty worthless in their own special ways but I enjoyed watching them nonetheless if only because of character actors Richa Moorjani, Karen Aldridge, and Michael Smiley.
My skin absolutely shivered at the sight of the ticks crawling over Malachite's lungs in his open chest. That was almost as bad as the cat!
Speaking of which...I loved watching our favorite eyeball octopus wrecking havoc and facing off against the xenomorph! I don't remember who said it in this thread earlier, but they're probably right that this is why the xenomorph doesn't have eyes!
Also...I found it quite curious that the eyeball octopus tried to warn foolish Chibuzo that the tick was breaking free from its capsule. I wonder why...
Cool episode. I'm glad that wasn't episode 1, it would've been weird to get a whole new cast in Ep 2.
So Weyland Yutani is based in Chicago. (That was Chicago, right?) I can dig it. And speaking of digging it, Yutani's personal guards were wild looking. What headgear!
The Xenomorph was not happy to run into the eyeball creature.
Crazy that we can now wonder whether the eye is trustworthy or not. I would not have predicted that for this show. Anyways, that probably means we're the stupid scientists who are the first to die.
So did the Maginot get all those creatures from just one planet? Must've been a hell of a planet. We heard they lost some crew collecting the specimens, but it's amazing any of them survived. Modern 2025 thinking would probably just have drones and robots collecting the specimens, while the humans waited safely back at the ship.
So Weyland Yutani is based in Chicago. (That was Chicago, right?) I can dig it. And speaking of digging it, Yutani's personal guards were wild looking. What headgear!
The Xenomorph was not happy to run into the eyeball creature.
Crazy that we can now wonder whether the eye is trustworthy or not. I would not have predicted that for this show. Anyways, that probably means we're the stupid scientists who are the first to die.
So did the Maginot get all those creatures from just one planet? Must've been a hell of a planet. We heard they lost some crew collecting the specimens, but it's amazing any of them survived. Modern 2025 thinking would probably just have drones and robots collecting the specimens, while the humans waited safely back at the ship.
Oh, in-universe I don’t think there’s any question that the kids are conscious. The question is whether they are the kids, or are they new beings with identical memories that several kids were murdered to create?
Is it though or are they just extremely sophisticated copies that AI like is able to mimic children? And how do you define consciousness ( i have flashbacks to Data's season 1 episode Measure of a Man
)Given how far our technology is and how far it can go in 150+ years when this is set i have no doubt that AI has become so sophisticated that only very specialized tests could reveal them and normal humans would not be able to.
That we are talking about it means that the show has qualities that go beyond the usual Alien eats Humans one by one until the hero/heroine kills it formula.
If they existed in real life, I’d agree that they might just be “presenting” as conscious without actually being self-aware, just machines simulating it. But in-story, we’ve seen a lot through their eyes — with Wendy in particular being a major protagonist — so I think we’re supposed to take it as a given that whatever they are, they’re conscious. (Likewise Data!)Is it though or are they just extremely sophisticated copies that AI like is able to mimic children? And how do you define consciousness ( i have flashbacks to Data's season 1 episode Measure of a Man
Given how far our technology is and how far it can go in 150+ years when this is set i have no doubt that AI has become so sophisticated that only very specialized tests could reveal them and normal humans would not be able to.
That we are talking about it means that the show has qualities that go beyond the usual Alien eats Humans one by one until the hero/heroine kills it formula.
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