How far into production is Gunn's Batman?
DC Cinematic Universe ( The James Gunn era)
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It’s not, AFAIK.
I sometimes think the general movie audiences roll with it easier than the hardcore fans.
I'd be cruel and hoodwink folks with what they think is a Batman cameo and then into focus you see it's Midnighter.
Like Star Trek Kelvinverse?I sometimes think the general movie audiences roll with it easier than the hardcore fans.
I sometimes think the general movie audiences roll with it easier than the hardcore fans.
General audiences have already proven that flexibility. We had multiple versions of Quicksilver simultaneously and no one was confused. They even deliberately tried to confuse that issue by casting Evan Peters as a Quicksilver impersonator in WandaVision and that was a huge hit.
We've also had multiple competing versions of Sherlock Holmes with no problems at all. Ditto for Dracula and Robin Hood and various others. We've had tv versions and movies of characters overlapping (for instance, young Bruce Wayne on Gotham while the DCEU was ongoing or Smallville being still ongoing when SR came out). DC also already did Joker and Joker 2, with their own unique versions of Joker and Harley while other DCEU films continued to release (including TSS which still starred Margot Robbie and the Snyder cut which had new scenes with Jared Leto). Those weren't necessarily all successful, but no serious analysis would claim it was because audiences were confused about there being multiple Harley Quinns or multiple Jokers.
Audiences are perfectly capable of understanding that fictional stories are fictional and don't have to be related to one another if they don't want to be, regardless of sharing the same characters or world. If there would be any confusion at all, it would mostly just be people wondering why one company would choose to make multiple different versions of the same thing as that feels like competing against yourself. But that doesn't make the movies themselves confusing in any way and it won't stop anyone from enjoying the movies if they're good.
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I haven’t seen it for a couple of years but I don’t think so. Indeed, your post lead me to think that the timelines for Superman and The Batman align quite nicely. The Batman came out in 2022 and in that film he has been operating for about a year. In Superman, it’s been 3 years since he revealed himself as Superman. If we take those years at face value, we have Batman in action for about a year more than Superman, which I think works nicely (I never liked the age gap in the Snyderverse).
Do you really think he hasn't already considered that possibility and rejected it? He knows his plans far better than any of us do, so just because we don't know his reasons for choosing a different approach doesn't mean they aren't good reasons.
Wow! This was huge surprise. Don’t tell anyone what I did most of my last hour at work.
Some interesting reveals here. Superman’s big last speech to Lex had line cut. I can see why it was. Always wonder if Ultraman could speak. We learn when he does speak in the movie it’s David’s voice.
Huge take away from all that - we got lucky to have all these people work in this character. James and David really understand why the character has lasted so long and means so much to people. It’s in the movie but great to hear it directly from them.
How refreshing to see a real in-depth behind-the-scenes special, instead of the 3-minute interview sound-bite compilations that pass for "behind-the-scenes" content most of the time. That was interesting to see, and that dialogue between Gunn and Corenswet over how to play the climactic speech was a potent dramatic climax in its own right. Amazing for something like that to play out before a rolling camera, which is something that you'd only expect to happen in fiction.
I was hoping there'd be some footage of their location filming at Union Terminal here in Cincinnati. I didn't find out they'd been filming here until after it ended, so I missed any chance I had to head down to the Terminal and try to get a look. But there were a few short clips of the Justice Gang confirming that, yes, they did film inside the Terminal atrium, where I've actually been before.
It's weird that they wanted to be authentic by shooting Corenswet lying in the actual freezing snow in Svalbard, Norway, yet had the dog in the scene be 100% CGI. Seems it would've been kinder to let him shoot that scene on fake snow in a warm soundstage, and just send a second-unit crew to shoot background plates in Svalbard.
I was hoping there'd be some footage of their location filming at Union Terminal here in Cincinnati. I didn't find out they'd been filming here until after it ended, so I missed any chance I had to head down to the Terminal and try to get a look. But there were a few short clips of the Justice Gang confirming that, yes, they did film inside the Terminal atrium, where I've actually been before.
It's weird that they wanted to be authentic by shooting Corenswet lying in the actual freezing snow in Svalbard, Norway, yet had the dog in the scene be 100% CGI. Seems it would've been kinder to let him shoot that scene on fake snow in a warm soundstage, and just send a second-unit crew to shoot background plates in Svalbard.
Gunn is working with a screenwriter for the Batman film. He said it's a priority for him. He said it will have the Damian Wayne Robin and, IIRC, be an adaption of Grant Morrison's Batman and Son. Morrison had a great run on Batman.
Apparently this image appears somewhere in that doc:
Has a lot of folks excited. For some reason, Brainiac seems to be a cinematic Superman Holy Grail for many fans. Don’t really get the overwhelming appeal myself — I mean, I won’t be mad if he appears in a movie, but I also don’t care if he never does. But I would totally be here for a Supergirl/Superman/Krypto team-up against whoever.
(I wouldn’t at all put it past Gunn to have slipped this into the video deliberately, knowing it would be noticed and generate some free Internet buzz.)
I am in full agreement on being indifferent on Brainiac. I suspect most of the demand is being perceived as number 2 villian after Lex Luthor. Which we have been denied being in a movie all these years... BUT
Let’s look at the actual character. Is there really a character at all? It’s been changed so many over the years. His origin and motives. Plus countless different looks. Which is revealing in itself. All those changes is because nothing really sticks or is memorable. Originally he was generic android alien invader. All the changes are efforts to hide that. There is not much there.
Let’s look at the actual character. Is there really a character at all? It’s been changed so many over the years. His origin and motives. Plus countless different looks. Which is revealing in itself. All those changes is because nothing really sticks or is memorable. Originally he was generic android alien invader. All the changes are efforts to hide that. There is not much there.
THANK YOU! I thought I was the only one. He’s a one-note concept, not a character.
I mean, again, it’s fine if they use him. The Krypton TV series actually managed a pretty successful take, with an excellent performance by the actor. But it’s just not something I can ever imagine actually clamoring for.
As you say, for a lot of people the main argument DEMANDING his use seems to be, “But we’ve never seen him!” And I’m like: o … kay?
That said my favorite version of Brainiac is post Crisis. A Human Milton Fine who is possessed by an alien mind. Has to modify his human body to be a proper host.
Most of all the Panic in the Sky storyline from the 90s. It was basically a mini DC crossover told in the Superman books. To stop Brainiac impending invasion Superman has to rally a diverse group of heroes. This was at a time DC was having Superman be only an honoree, occasional Justice League member. But that storyline changed that to him being full leader.
What we saw of his relationship with the “Justice Gang” as more an unofficial ally and not member is similar to that. I would much rather see Gunn use a Brainiac invasion to formalize his role and make it the true League, than another Apokolips one. But Gunn has suggested hesitation on rushing Justice League and rather wait a long while before characters are fully established. Considering how badly the previous universe handled the League, starting with Snyder in BvS, I do no blame him.
Most of all the Panic in the Sky storyline from the 90s. It was basically a mini DC crossover told in the Superman books. To stop Brainiac impending invasion Superman has to rally a diverse group of heroes. This was at a time DC was having Superman be only an honoree, occasional Justice League member. But that storyline changed that to him being full leader.
What we saw of his relationship with the “Justice Gang” as more an unofficial ally and not member is similar to that. I would much rather see Gunn use a Brainiac invasion to formalize his role and make it the true League, than another Apokolips one. But Gunn has suggested hesitation on rushing Justice League and rather wait a long while before characters are fully established. Considering how badly the previous universe handled the League, starting with Snyder in BvS, I do no blame him.
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