Is it time to put Star Trek to rest?

[gweeps]

I think the franchise needs another rest. SNW is done in a season and a half, Academy may only get one season, a fourth Abrams' movie isn't forthcoming anytime soon.

Star Trek doesn't need a reboot. It needs people who don't pander to subscribers and shareholders.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Academy may only get one season

Season 2 is green-lit and goes into production in a few weeks.

Yes, I know there's a stupid rumour from the usual dubious sources. The same that have been telling us Kurtzman has been fired for over half a decade.

 

[Tallguy]

Nothing would make me more delighted than Kurtzman re-upping his contract with Paramount and watching the TaliFans explode.

First: The Tali-who now?

But I would want it to announced by Kathleen Kennedy.

 

[Dar70]

Season 2 is green-lit and goes into production in a few weeks.

Yes, I know there's a stupid rumour from the usual dubious sources. The same that have been telling us Kurtzman has been fired for over half a decade.

Yeah there will be a 2. But I personally think of all all these steaming 10 episode shows as season split up into two parts.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Okay.

 

[Riley]

Nothing would make me more delighted than Kurtzman re-upping his contract with Paramount and watching the TaliFans explode.

Let me see if I understand what I'm reading correctly: you're comparing people who don't like the version of Star Trek created by Kurtzman to terrorists and murderers.

 

[Starflight]

It feels like a huge amount of the appeal of modern Star Trek for people on this site comes from basking in the imagined fury of people who don't like modern Star Trek.

 

[Tallguy]

It feels like a huge amount of the appeal of modern Star Trek for people on this site comes from basking in the imagined fury of people who don't like modern Star Trek.

Generally I find it tiresome.

But after 10+ years of videos, articles, and posts of how (whoever is currently making Star Trek) is lying about every show that they say is in production (many of which have been made, released, run for multiple seasons, and have gone off the air) and that all of this crap is just an unmitigated disaster for everyone involved but they just can't admit it?

I might get a teeny bit of schadenfreude. But I'm not proud of it.

Now when one of the more prominent cheerleaders of "It's all wrong" suddenly does a 180 on Picard? I think we might not like the same things about Star Trek. Or he just likes hanging around with the current show runners.

 

[Nyotarules]

It's time to put Kurtz Trek and JJ Trek to rest and then ignore that they ever existed.

Try the change channel switch on your remote, it's a marvellous invention.

 

[HotRod]

Let me see if I understand what I'm reading correctly: you're comparing people who don't like the version of Star Trek created by Kurtzman to terrorists and murderers.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Let me see if I understand what I'm reading correctly: you're comparing people who don't like the version of Star Trek created by Kurtzman to terrorists and murderers.

In fairness, it was the era of JJ Abrams urinal targets and facebook videos of people burning the 2009 movie DVD (which they had presumably purchased, thus funding what they hated the most)

 

[XCV330]

Absolutely.

Although he was briefly eclipsed by Brian Brophy a few years ago.

they work in harmony for our benefit

 

[Lord Garth]

There will be two seasons of Starfleet Academy. But I think it's only going to be the two.

I say this as someone looking forward to the series.

Alex Kurtzman's contract is up in 2026, 10 years is a good run, and I really do believe that Skydance will want to do their own thing with Star Trek. Whatever it turns out to be.

Like with Enterprise before it, if Starfleet Academy had started sooner, it would've gone the full five seasons (or four in this case, since it's college) just like ENT would've gone the full seven seasons. It's just having the misfortune of starting when it is.

 

[Danja]

Alex Kurtzman's contract is up in 2026, 10 years is a good run, and I really do believe that Skydance will want to do their own thing with Star Trek. Whatever it turns out to be.

David Ellison knows Alex (The two of them worked on Star Trek: Into Darkness together).

I'm sure the two of them can come to an arrangement.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Let me see if I understand what I'm reading correctly: you're comparing people who don't like the version of Star Trek created by Kurtzman to terrorists and murderers.

I'd have to say that you don't understand what's being said at all. It's obviously not simply "people who don't like the version of Star Trek created by Kurtzman".

 

[Dukhat]

David Ellison knows Alex (The two of them worked on Star Trek: Into Darkness together).

I'm sure the two of them can come to an arrangement.

Well, by the end of SFA’s second season, they will know if the show is profitable enough to keep producing.

 

[The Wormhole]

Let me see if I understand what I'm reading correctly: you're comparing people who don't like the version of Star Trek created by Kurtzman to terrorists and murderers.

Oh, spare us the righteous indignation. Kurtzman's detractors have said some equally nasty things about him and his supporters.

 

[Uhura's Song]

No.

Streaming Trek has been hit or miss, but so was the earlier era.

DISCO was up and down, but still had some fantastic moments. For my money,,SNW,,LD, & Prodigy were all consistently good, often very good, sometimes outright brilliant. PIC S2 was mostly a mess and S31 was poor. But S3 was fantastic, S1 solid save for the magic screwdriver ending.

I'd put SNW, LD, in the top half of Trek shows (though below TOS, TNG, & DS9). PRO in the middle and DISCO & PIC in tier 2 with VOY & ENT.

PIC 3 is my favorite season of the non-cartoon streaming Trek.

S31 was disappointing, but not unexpectedly so. Yeoh was still fantastic & the first 45 minutes or so were alright. And it is hardly the first Trek movie to struggle. I would still take it over Into Darkness. Maybe TFF & Nemesis as well.

Serialized Trek is tough, because if you don't stick the landing (Pic1, Disco 1-3) it kinda undoes a lot of the earlier good work. SNW, LD, & PRO consistently did. DISCO did in S4, but the rest of the season was weaker than the others (like Pic2).

 

[Uhura's Song]

I personally did NOT want a new series with the TNG cast. It was a nice closure for them..certainly better than Nemesis.

Legacy would have neen Seven, Raffi, and Jack, and probably Sydney. TNG cast would have been cameos and/or supporting. Certainly not on the ship.

 

[ananta]

Legacy would have neen Seven, Raffi, and Jack, and probably Sydney.

Why I’m glad we never got it tbh. Seven is great. The others I could happily live without ever seeing again.