Yeah, I never got the Robau thing.
Is it time to put Star Trek to rest?
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Commodore Wesley is also very cool.Some other captains/commodores we’ve seen for five or so minutes:
Styles
Harriman
Stocker
A bunch of vaguely remembered ones in BermanTrek.
Robau seems rather more impressive. Cuz he’s a badass.
(But, to be fair, while I enjoy the memes, I can see where their appeal is not universal).
Initially, at the time, it reminded me of an Atari 400 membrane keyboard. At least with looks. And, of course, every other galactic power also had a similar design - just swap colors and symbols for species. But add in how the control stations could be changed on the fly as the computer is generating the "keys" for each screen, which opens up a ton of flexibility, it is a cool idea, does look great, and has held up. And yet, Geordi always goes to the same screen when on the bridge.
(Well, that makes sense too, and the computer can whip up controls anywhere on the ship since, at least prior to season 4 or so, you'd once in a while see a person tapping something on the shiny black wall surface. Especially season 1. Kinda cool if you leave your PADD in the quarters and had a thought of inspiration while walking down the corridor and had to enter it into the system real quick.)
Not sure it’s the best thing they did but it is among the films’ strengths.
Well yes, but I'm advocating a very large nudge and a wink when they say their show is in-continuity with the rest. Suspension of disbelief, same as you know aliens won't really look like humans with bits of rubber glued to their heads.
Yeah, there are countless examples, but this one wrecks the entire premise of the show, and is at least as egregious as updating the look and tone of a show from the 1960's.
Regarding "canon" and visual continuity: the SNW visual design is one of the best things about the show IMO, I can absolutely believe I'm looking at the same ship as in TOS. It's maybe just a little bit too big, but other than that, the ship feels like the Enterprise to me.
The writing's another matter, there's no real way to make it line up with TOS without getting into increasingly amusing mental gymnastics, but visually it's hard to imagine how they could have done it much better.
The writing's another matter, there's no real way to make it line up with TOS without getting into increasingly amusing mental gymnastics, but visually it's hard to imagine how they could have done it much better.
Back in 2008 Orci or Lindelof were talking in an interview about whenever we see "guest star" Captains in the other movies like Esteban or Harriman they're usually depicted as inept or overwhelmed by the job so that Kirk could look all the more cool swooping in to save the day, which Orci/Lindelof (whoever it was) said he didn't agree with feeling "if you're a Starfleet Captain, you should be one of the coolest motherfuckers in the galaxy." They therefore promised that the character of Captain Robau "will be a total badass."
From there, fans began taking the term "Badass Captain Robau" and turning it into a meme and eventually we here on Trek BBS had our own "Captain Robau Facts" thread in the same style as the old Chuck Norris Facts internet meme that was so popular around the mid 2000s. Trekmovie even mentioned it to Faran Tahir himself when they were talking to him at the Trek XI premiere, as seen around the 5:20 mark of this video:
So, yeah, maybe you did have to be here to get it, but for those of us who were, it was great fun.
I've done this for a long time now as a fan. I guess the gymnastics vary from person to person.
Good thing the ENTERPRISE has a gym.
That's actually an explanation that makes sense and thank you for taking the time to explain. I really didn't know any of that.
Yeah, no.
Definitely not. If people want to ignore then cancellation is not required.
Nothing would make me more delighted than Kurtzman re-upping his contract with Paramount and watching the TaliFans explode.
Yep. What's really funny is that when Kurtzman eventually does leave the franchise, those same idiots who have been saying every month for the last eight years that he was about to be fired will use it as proof that they were right all along.
I wouldn't be surprised if this happened since Ellison and Kurtzman are pals.
Try again. This one is a boring one. I’m sure you have something better.
Well, I say ‘I’m sure’ but…
I'm one of those people who turned their backs on most of newer Trek (but also never cared for all of older Trek in the first place) a long time ago - pretty much when the JJ movies rolled around - and I wouldn't be sad if the franchise stopped producing new content. I'd just shrug because nobody is going to take away what has already been made.
However, just because I feel this way doesn't mean everyone else does and there are still a lot of fans who would be rather sad if there was no new Trek content. For them I'd be sad. But not if there was no more Star Trek. Small but meaningful difference.
As for putting things to rest... I do think they went a bit overboard with all the new Trek and their "let's throw things against the wall and see what sticks" approach. I wouldn't put the entire franchise to rest for good tho, I'd rather give it another long break. Just to give everyone some space (pun intended) and wait for fresh minds to walk in. But that's just me, and I'm probably not a good person to ask since my love for the franchise is... umm... not very big anymore.
However, just because I feel this way doesn't mean everyone else does and there are still a lot of fans who would be rather sad if there was no new Trek content. For them I'd be sad. But not if there was no more Star Trek. Small but meaningful difference.
As for putting things to rest... I do think they went a bit overboard with all the new Trek and their "let's throw things against the wall and see what sticks" approach. I wouldn't put the entire franchise to rest for good tho, I'd rather give it another long break. Just to give everyone some space (pun intended) and wait for fresh minds to walk in. But that's just me, and I'm probably not a good person to ask since my love for the franchise is... umm... not very big anymore.
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