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So What Are you Reading?: Generations

When I was 14, I hadn't read enough to really form any good opinions.
When I was 14, I was writing Lije Baley fanfic. Seriously. I'd only read Caves and The Naked Sun, and I wanted more of that. (I hadn't read Robots of Dawn, the 1980s Lije Baley novel at that point.)

But I do like [Asimov's] short fiction. I, Robot is a pretty good collection of his short stories overall. He doesn't seem to be good with the long form or character development in general. And I liked his short lived show Probe. It might be because that was the norm for science fiction at this point in time: ideas over character development.
IMHO, Asimov is mixed as a novelist. I think Nemesis may be his best, with Foundation's Edge a close second.

Saving Hounds to go with the rest of my more Halloween focused reads. I get that it does take place before the Final Problem. But I've also read that it's mostly a stand alone novel.
Hound is completely standalone, yes. Really, all of the Holmes works are, even "The Empty House," which is the direct sequel to "The Final Problem."

Several years ago, going through 125 year old newspapers for genealogical purposes, I found a newspaper article about the William Gillette Sherlock Holmes play and a patron of a performance who called, several years before it was written, the mechanics of the reveal of "The Empty House." Fan theories have a long and rich history.
 
When I was 14, I was writing Lije Baley fanfic. Seriously. I'd only read Caves and The Naked Sun, and I wanted more of that. (I hadn't read Robots of Dawn, the 1980s Lije Baley novel at that point.)

Only Lije? I would've written Daneel Olivaw fanfic, if I'd been interested in writing fanfic instead of original stuff.


Several years ago, going through 125 year old newspapers for genealogical purposes, I found a newspaper article about the William Gillette Sherlock Holmes play and a patron of a performance who called, several years before it was written, the mechanics of the reveal of "The Empty House." Fan theories have a long and rich history.

IIRC, the Gillette play is also notable as one of the first instances of an adaptation character getting adopted by canon (like Jimmy Olsen or Harley Quinn), as the play's pageboy character Billy appears in some of the later Doyle stories (as well as a number of screen adaptations).
 
Only Lije? I would've written Daneel Olivaw fanfic, if I'd been interested in writing fanfic instead of original stuff.
At 14-15, I found Lije more interesting than Daneel, so my Lije stories didn't involve Daneel at all. In one, Lije was summoned to the planet of Nova Terra (the second Spacer world, in my story) to solve a murder of a pro-Earth politician on his own. I write that now, and I find the whole idea that Spacer worlds (Solaria, The Naked Sun; Aurora, The Robots of Dawn) would need an Earth cop to solve crimes a bit absurd. Yes, I know it's explained, but it's a stretch. All that time and expense. Lije isn't that essential.

I eventually wrote a Daneel Olivaw story. It was in the Foundation era, and I wanted Daneel to meet Data. At the time I thought they would get along and have much in common, but as the years have gone by I now think Daneel would have been quite alarmed by Data (no Three Laws) and would attempt to take Data's positronic brain by force. At this point I see Daneel as a bit of a malevolent wizard behind the curtain, and Bel Riose and The Mule as the tragic figures in the Foundation saga rather than villains.

IIRC, the Gillette play is also notable as one of the first instances of an adaptation character getting adopted by canon (like Jimmy Olsen or Harley Quinn), as the play's pageboy character Billy appears in some of the later Doyle stories (as well as a number of screen adaptations).
Billy was played in some London performances by a young Charlie Chaplin.
 
Creators are often the worst judges of their own works. :)
Oh yeah. So many times musicians have put out gigunda boxed sets of outtakes and songs they cut from albums, and invariably I would listen to them and wonder why the hell they didn't put that on the album when it's better than virtually every song on it. (Specifically, that was my reaction to hearing Bob Dylan's "Blind Willie McTell," which would've been the best song on Infidels.) For that matter, Martin Barre thinks that Under Wraps was one of Jethro Tull's best albums when it's by far one of their three or four worst.
 
Oh yeah. So many times musicians have put out gigunda boxed sets of outtakes and songs they cut from albums, and invariably I would listen to them and wonder why the hell they didn't put that on the album when it's better than virtually every song on it. (Specifically, that was my reaction to hearing Bob Dylan's "Blind Willie McTell," which would've been the best song on Infidels.) For that matter, Martin Barre thinks that Under Wraps was one of Jethro Tull's best albums when it's by far one of their three or four worst.

Maybe that explains why the deleted ending to Red Dwarf: Series 8's "Only the Good..." is so vastly better than the incoherent mess of a cliffhanger the creators stuck us with instead (and then never resolved, picking up the revival a decade later as if something like the deleted ending had happened instead of the "canonical" one).
 
When I was a teen, I devoured any Asimov I could find. I now wonder how Caves of Steel would hold up for me these days.
His short stories work better for me than his novels.

I read across genres, so my expectations are different than if I only read science fiction and nothing else.

I finished up Caves of Steel at lunch today, and it was meh. He creates an interesting world with some cool concepts, but it's mostly talking heads debating tech stuff. There isn't much of a character arc. The characters are pretty much the same at the end as at the beginning. The biggest problem is that the book really was too short. (It should have been another hundred pages.). An investigation into the murder barely took place. And the twist was not all that interesting. It was good enough that I didn't DNF it, but it wasn't good enough that I'd recommend it.

So my books completed this month: Sign of Four, Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, Aftertaste, Miss Austen, and Caves of Steel. I have eight more chapters of Emma to finish that one for Jane Austen July. It's okay, but it's not Austen's best by any stretch, but I'd recommend the modern adaptation: Clueless. I'll probably finish it before the end of the week. I do recommend Miss Austen and the Sherlock stories. I don't recommend Aftertaste or Caves of Steel.

I'm now a couple of chapters into Remains of the Day, and it's a completely different read.
 
I needed an ebook to read at work, so I started STTOS: No Time Like the Past by @Greg Cox yesterday. I was kind of burned out on TNG after a whole bunch in a row, and I'm already working on the Millenium trilogy for DS9, I was kind of in a Voyager mood, but the VOY books I own that I haven't read are the Dark Matters trilogy, and my copy of the first book is a paperback, so that ruled them out. That left me with either one of the whole bunch of TOS novels I own but haven't read or the Rise of the Federation, and I decided on NTLTP since that could also kind of scratch my VOY itch. I also love the idea of Seven teaming up with the TOS crew. I always like to watch the episodes that tie into the book either before or right after I start it and after carefully looking through the Memory Beta page for it, don't worry I was able to avoid any big spoilers, I decided on The Apple and All Our Yesterdays. So I watched The Apple yesterday and hope to watch AoY tomorrow, I saw connections to Let This Be Your Last Battlefield, but I already saw that one by coincidence a couple months ago on MeTV so I don't need to watch it again.
 
I needed an ebook to read at work, so I started STTOS: No Time Like the Past by @Greg Cox yesterday. I was kind of burned out on TNG after a whole bunch in a row, and I'm already working on the Millenium trilogy for DS9, I was kind of in a Voyager mood, but the VOY books I own that I haven't read are the Dark Matters trilogy, and my copy of the first book is a paperback, so that ruled them out. That left me with either one of the whole bunch of TOS novels I own but haven't read or the Rise of the Federation, and I decided on NTLTP since that could also kind of scratch my VOY itch. I also love the idea of Seven teaming up with the TOS crew. I always like to watch the episodes that tie into the book either before or right after I start it and after carefully looking through the Memory Beta page for it, don't worry I was able to avoid any big spoilers, I decided on The Apple and All Our Yesterdays. So I watched The Apple yesterday and hope to watch AoY tomorrow, I saw connections to Let This Be Your Last Battlefield, but I already saw that one by coincidence a couple months ago on MeTV so I don't need to watch it again.

Are you allowed to read at work?
I want that too!
Does your firm needs people? :D
 
I'm kind of allowed to read at work, one of my supervisors doesn't want me to because a customer complained, but everybody else is fine with it. It gets really, really slow sometimes, so when no one is around I'll either read or stream shows. In a 6 hour+ shift yesterday I probably saw less than 10 customers in the part of the store where I was cashiering. I ended up reading 100+ pages of NTLTP and almost all of three half hour episodes of Classic Doctor Who.
 
Books in progress: Remains of the Day (no idea why this book has two super long chapters), Emma (3 chapters left), Memoirs of Sherlock Holmes (good stories as usual), and Radium Girls (this one is super depressing). Once I finish up Emma, I'm going to start North and South.

I really have to look through my Star Trek purchases to see if I have any short story collections. I really like these for travel and while on vacation.

I have switched from Kindle to Kobo (moved all of my books to Calibre; this took months), and I have side loaded the Lexend font. I thought no way could a font actually increase my reading speed, but this one does it. I've read 10 books with it, and I'd say my reading speed has increased anywhere from 10-20% faster depending on the author. The best part is that it's free.
 
Drip My Brain in Joy: A Life With Neil Innes, by Yvonne Innes.

I was at work on the afternoon of December 29, 2019 when I heard the news that Neil Innes had died. I cannot tell you at this point how I heard, but it may have been through Twitter, in those days when Twitter was useful, and an update from the BBC. (I followed a dozen-ish BBC news accounts in those days.) I had an autographed note from Innes on my bulletin board, something he'd packed in when I'd ordered a copy of The Wheat Album in 2018. I don't remember that I cried, but I certainly sat there in silence with my hurt for a time.

Innes was an artist and musician. He worked with Monty Python, was a member of the Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band, and was the musical side of The Rutles, not to mention much more, like children's television in Britain, that I was completely unaware of. He was also an inspiration to decades of British comedy talent, including Stephen Fry, Adrian Edmondson, and Diane Morgan. (I discovered Morgan through a 2016 BBC documentary about the Bonzos and fell madly in unrequitted love.)

I didn't know a lot about Innes as a person, and what I did know was a bit unfortunate and sad -- his rift with Eric Idle, which I learned of in 1999 through a series of posts on rec.arts.beatles (of USENET fame) about the history of the Rutles. They seemed to have patched things up by 2002 -- Idle and Innes performed as part of Monty Python at the Concert for George, and they appeared on stage together in Los Angeles about the same time -- but they fell out again after the release of Spamalot. While Jem Roberts' 2020 book Fab Fools, a comedy-focused history of the Beatles, covers Innes and the Rutles (to the tune of about a quarter of the book), I wasn't sure that I would be interested in a book focused solely on Innes' life. But it's been a strange, weird, depressing year, and for self-care I ordered a copy in February which, for reasons, took months to cross the Pond.

I'm glad I did.

Yvonne Innes, the wife of Neil, penned a lovely, warm, beautiful, funny, sad book about her husband and their life together. As a biography, this is on that focuses more on emotion and feeling than dates and places. This is the way Yvonne remembers it, this is the Neil Yvonne remembers, and his absence in her life is palpable from the first page. There were so many times my inner historian wanted more facts, more depth, but I was always willing to meet Yvonne's narrative on her terms. I wanted more about Neil's relationships with, for example, the Beatles (all but Ringo get at least a mention) and Monty Python, and sometimes I felt, in the way she wrote about his personality, that there was something large in Neil's life she was leaving unsaid. Yet, that's not the story she wants to tell, this is her truth and the Neil she knew, and her prose was always beautiful and moving.

This was a lovely book to read.
 
July 2025 reading report…

Finished the following Marvel “Avengers vs. X-Men” collected editions, many begun reading in June (well, the individual issues on Marvel Unlimited, in most cases, but logged this way on my GoodReads)…

“Avengers Vs. X-Men” (trade paperback, 2013) (reprints “Point One” #1 (January 2012), “Avengers Vs. X-Men” #0 (May 2012), #1-12 (June 2012 to December 2012) (physical copy) (Brian Michael Bendis, Ed Brubaker, Matt Fraction, Jonathan Hickman; artists: John Romita Jr., Olivier Coipel, Adam Kubert, et al.)

“Avengers Vs. X-Men: VS” (trade paperback, 2013) (reprints “Avengers Vs. X-Men: VS” #1-6 (June 2012 to November 2012) (MU) (Jason Aaron, Kathryn Immonen, Steve McNiven, Kieron Gillen, Jeph Loeb, Christopher Yost, Rick Remender, Kaare Andrews, Matt Fraction; artists: Adam Kubert, Stuart Immonen, Steve McNiven, Salvador Larroca, Ed McGuinness, Terry Dodson, Brandon Peterson, Kaare Andrews, Leinil Francis Yu, Tom Raney, et al.)

“Avengers By Brian Michael Bendis Vol. 4” (hardcover, 2012) (reprints “Avengers” #24.1-30 (May 2012 to November 2012) (MU) (Brian Michael Bendis; artists: David Finch, Walt Simonson, et al.)

“New Avengers By Brian Michael Bendis Vol. 4” (trade paperback, 2013) (reprints “New Avengers” #24-30 (May 2012 to November 2012) (MU) (Brian Michael Bendis; artists: Mike Deodato Jr., et al.)

“Uncanny X-Men By Kieron Gillen Vol. 4” (hardcover, 2012) (reprints “Uncanny X-Men” #15-20 (September 2012 to December 2012) (MU) (Kieron Gillen; artists: Daniel Acuna, Ron Garney, Dale Eaglesham, Carlos Pacheco, et al.)

“Avengers Vs. X-Men: X-Men: Legacy” (trade paperback, 2013) (reprints “X-Men: Legacy” #266-275 (July 2012 to December 2012) (MU) (Christos Gage; artists: Rafa Sandoval, David Baldeon, et al.)

“Wolverine and the X-Men Vol. 4” (trade paperback, 2013) (reprints “Wolverine and the X-Men” #14-18 (September 2012 to December 2012) (MU) (Jason Aaron; artists: Jorge Molina, Chris Bachalo, Michael Allred, et al.)

Also (read entirely within the month of July)…

“Slugfest: Inside the Epic, 50-Year Battle Between Marvel and DC” by Reed Tucker (Grand Central Publishing, 2017) (physical copy)

“Pride of Baghdad” by Brian K. Vaughn (writer) and Niko Henrichin (artist) (DC Comics/Vertigo, softcover graphic novel, 2008 (first released in hardcover in 2006) (physical copy)

GoodReads 2025 Reading Challenge Goal: 29 of 75 books read (39%)

— David Young
 
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The Lion: Son of the forest by Mike Brooks.

Enjoying it quite a bit. Normally, for this universe, I've leaned towards the Guard/Militarum novels, or certain specific authors, but I did use the Dark Angels in the tabletop game thirty odd years ago.
 
“Avengers Vs. X-Men” (trade paperback, 2013) (reprints “Point One” #1 (January 2012), “Avengers Vs. X-Men” #0 (May 2012), #1-12 (June 2012 to December 2012) (physical copy) (Brian Michael Bendis, Ed Brubaker, Matt Fraction, Jonathan Hickman; artists: John Romita Jr., Olivier Coipel, Adam Kubert, et al.)

“Avengers Vs. X-Men: VS” (trade paperback, 2013) (reprints “Avengers Vs. X-Men: VS” #1-6 (June 2012 to November 2012) (MU) (Jason Aaron, Kathryn Immonen, Steve McNiven, Kieron Gillen, Jeph Loeb, Christopher Yost, Rick Remender, Kaare Andrews, Matt Fraction; artists: Adam Kubert, Stuart Immonen, Steve McNiven, Salvador Larroca, Ed McGuinness, Terry Dodson, Brandon Peterson, Kaare Andrews, Leinil Francis Yu, Tom Raney, et al.)
I read these at the time as floppies, and at this point I have almost no memory of anything about AVX.
 
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