The James Bond Film Discussion Thread (With Bonus Lazenby!)
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While I would agree, Bond has previously remade movies (TSWLM is basically YOLT just with another villain).
As to the earlier comment about Moonraker (the novel being sexless), I think it would be a bold way to reposition Bond. I hate to say that Bond has lost alot of the luster in the 21st century. There have been a slew of other spy genres that have frankly done it better.
I used to think more highly of the Daniel Craig era until I realized the movies basically follow a Marvel/DC super hero arc (not to mention the unfortunate plot element in Spectre lifted from Austin Powers Goldmember). I think the article is right in that in order to stay fresh and stay seperate from other films Bond needs to get back to his roots.
My concern is how much money Amazon is willing to spend on this to make it look like a Bond film, because some of their direct to streaming films are pretty cheap looking.
They threw money at Rings of Power and Wheel of Time, with varying results. And of course the story goes that Bezos told them to spend whatever it took to buy Barbara out.
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That's really good and I agree OHMSS is a great soundtrack.
My only two slight niggles are with the sniffiness about TSWLM and GE soundtracks. I think The Spy Who Loves Me is great, and Goldeneye, while not perfect, isn't as bad as is made out.
Confession, I still haven't seen No Time to Die. I do however think Craig's Bond brought a ruthless meatiness to the role, here was a man who you knew would kill you easily if he had to. That said, Brosnan's Bond had the disarming charm factor, harkening back to Connery with the sophistication.
I don't therefore know what I'd want from the next Bond. A shift back in the direction of Brosnan wouldn't necessarily hurt, I don't know precisely how, nor do I know how far I'd want things to push with the gadgets. Craig's Bond wasn't overly reliant on them, whereas it took on a silly dimension toward the end of Brosnan's era.
I don't therefore know what I'd want from the next Bond. A shift back in the direction of Brosnan wouldn't necessarily hurt, I don't know precisely how, nor do I know how far I'd want things to push with the gadgets. Craig's Bond wasn't overly reliant on them, whereas it took on a silly dimension toward the end of Brosnan's era.
To me the sweet spot is a Brosnan style Bond with a minimum of gadgets (and gadgets that seem to be feasible if not in existence yet)
I know what you mean. I can buy a grappling hook in a belt, even explosive pens, but that camouflage car in Die Another Day was trippy stuff.
I thought that, for example, both The Batman and the Christopher Nolan movies did a good job of giving Batman gadgets that were cutting-edge or just ahead of what we have in the real world, while retaining reality and groundedness.
On a barely related note, as iconic as it is, Bond needs to ditch the PPK.
I own one. It looks cool but it is a (nearly?) century old design. It weighs a relative ton. It shoots relatively underpowered calibers. Despite this, the felt recoil on anything more than .32 ACP is a bear. The magazine capacity is abysmal. MI6 must not value its agents very highly to send them in the field with them when there are more modern handguns, including from Walther, that improve on each of the above issues, sometimes dramatically. They might as well expect Bond to chase the bad guys in an Aston Martin Coal Scuttle and dial up Q on a crank telephone.
Reason number 4956 why we all want a Christopher Nolan Bond movie.
The trouble is that gadget wise now there's little you can give Bond that seems way ahead of its time. Once a briefcase with a knife that popped out of it was the height of futuristic, these days...
We're sniffier these days as well. The invisible car is ridiculous but is based on sound principles, if only taken to ridiculous extremes, meanwhile people have no problem with a private organisation who could not only build a secret lair inside a volcano but could also build a space rocket that ate other space rockets...in 1967!!!
Try to be too cutting edge and you end up with something like Jeffrey Deaver's Carte Blanche where Bond has an iPhone full of apps on it and that's about it, and I hope we never hear about smart blood or boring stuff like the NineEyes system again
We're sniffier these days as well. The invisible car is ridiculous but is based on sound principles, if only taken to ridiculous extremes, meanwhile people have no problem with a private organisation who could not only build a secret lair inside a volcano but could also build a space rocket that ate other space rockets...in 1967!!!
Try to be too cutting edge and you end up with something like Jeffrey Deaver's Carte Blanche where Bond has an iPhone full of apps on it and that's about it, and I hope we never hear about smart blood or boring stuff like the NineEyes system again
I’d take a Matt Reeves one too
Nah PPK's must be awesome, Bond shoots down a helicopter, at night, shooting from a moving speedboat in Spectre
(I find this less believable than an invisible car TBH!)The worst thing is they ditched the PPK. From Tomorrow Never Dies through to Casino Royale he uses a P99, but for some reason from QoS onwards he's back to using a PPK.
I think it's part of the nostalgia issue that says he has to wear a dinner jacket, has to say Bond, James Bond, has to ask for a vodka martini shaken not stirred, has to drive an Aston Martin etc etc when none of these things are in every film!
all?
I'd take Reeves over Nolan to be honest.
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