Just bought my copy at a local B&N. It's important to me, to (whenever possible) buy my books from a brick-and-mortar store. I look forward to actually removing the shrink-wrap and reading the thing, with a proverbial worm on my tongue.
Nana Visitor's 'A Woman's Trek' book coming in 2022
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Mine arrived in Australia. Looks amazing!
According to Nana's own words, in the chapter on Marina, she was the only living woman who declined.
For all the beautiful typography, layout, printing, and binding (not to mention that it's impeccably well-researched and well-written), I did find one glaring typo. And it's one that doesn't take a human proofreader to find; even a 1970s-vintage spell-check utility (yes, they existed) would have found it.
For all the beautiful typography, layout, printing, and binding (not to mention that it's impeccably well-researched and well-written), I did find one glaring typo. And it's one that doesn't take a human proofreader to find; even a 1970s-vintage spell-check utility (yes, they existed) would have found it.
I don't know if she references it elsewhere, but the main quote regarding participation actually says "Marina Sirtis is one of the few people who chose not to talk to me for this book." I do note that Nana says "people" there, Marina might still be the only woman?
She notes that didn't have the opportunity to speak to Chase (which sounds like their schedules just never allowed for it?) She was unable to get in contact with Linda Park. And we don't know if she simply never bothered to approach Jennifer Lien.
I stand corrected.
Aw, that’s a shame, because I would have been very interested to learn about their perspectives on their time on Trek and what their experiences are / were as women in the business. Linda Park is pretty active on Instagram, so I wanna say there should definitely have been a path to reaching out to her. Jennifer Lien being no longer involved with acting and really, the whole Trek convention circuit and all that probably made it easy to just not talk to her. Still, I would loved to hear her talk about Trek, especially because I’m convinced there was a hefty dose of ugly misogyny involved, both with how she was written out of the show by the producers and with the way she has been treated by fans and media ever since. But then again, maybe Nana did reach out and Jennifer just didn’t want to be part of it, which would also be totally understandable, of course.
I’ve been meaning to get this book. Reactions I’ve seen here and elsewhere online lead me to think it’s a worthwhile read. One question for those who actually own a copy: Are there actual interviews in it (as in a question being asked and a full answer being given as a quote), or is it more like Nana Visitor describing how she met with actresses and talked to them?
It's kind of a mixture, but it feels like the majority is Nana* kind of describing the point of what they said.
*No awful pun intended.
...Intendant?
Apologies for the self-bump but it's to bring information. Further to the "who couldn't she get for the book" discussion, Nana was on the D-Con Chamber and said this about Marina's lack of involvement:
"Marina told me that she wasn't interested in anyone making money off her back."
"Marina told me that she wasn't interested in anyone making money off her back."
I just come across her book today. And in the midst of reading about her, it accidentally come across from a few different link that she was dating Nicole de Boer for a while. I am quite surprise when I read that
Gon' need a source on that, because I'm not so sure I believe it. Sounds more like the kind of weird answer you get from Ai because of it misunderstanding one episode of DS9.
Nicole was was with the same guy from before she was on DS9, and then married for a dozen years after that.
Edit: I'll bet "real money" that it comes from this.
Except if you click on the [view couple] it shows the truth.
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take your pick
www.whosdatedwho.com
www.famousfix.com
Nicole de Boer
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www.whosdatedwho.com
Nana Visitor Dating History - FamousFix
www.famousfix.com
The first link doesn't open for me, but the other two both list the relationship as ON-SCREEN.take your pick
Nicole de Boer
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Nana Visitor Dating History - FamousFix
Edit: First link works now, a completely unsourced claim on a page that looks an awful lot like they just took basic info without further context from one of the other sites.
Not exactly David Gerrold's HARLIE, is it?
Natural stupidity is smarter than artificial intelligence.
I really wanted to love 'A Woman's Trek' by Nana Visitor, looking at the history of women in the franchise. But there's jut WAY too much twisting of the facts and over-reaching interpretations to fit a narrative. When I get to (just a few minutes ago), "The Borg collective can be seen as a patriarchy in which you have to follow the rules to fit in," it's just like... no, Nana. No, it is in no way whatsoever like that. (It's, you know, an enslaving hive mind- led by a woman, so an evil matriarchy, if anything- in which free will and consciousness are just swallowed up, no one has a choice on whether to 'follow the rules'.) Similarly, when First Contact is framed as the Borg Queen 'using her sexuality to drive a wedge between Picard and Data' (no, that's not what happens), or Seven of Nine being taught about small talk in preparation for dating 'to please a man' (I suppose lesbians just talk like "State the nature of your day" "It was adequate. What shall we eat?" when they are out on dates, because small talk exists only to please men?)
Anyhow, I will finish the book. And I am learning things from it. But. While I was very excited to get this for my birthday, and there ARE a lot of great (but sad) insights on women's stories and the struggles they underwent... there's also just a lot of intellectual dishonesty and ignoring of inconvenient facts that don't fit the narrative, or twisting of the storylines to create a confirmation bias, to the point that I am just finding myself really disappointed.
I wanted to learn about women's experiences in the industry, and the franchise- and to a degree I am- but it just ends up where I have to take everything I'm reading with a grain of salt, just because of the bias and inaccuracy I can see in the areas I do know about.
Anyhow, I will finish the book. And I am learning things from it. But. While I was very excited to get this for my birthday, and there ARE a lot of great (but sad) insights on women's stories and the struggles they underwent... there's also just a lot of intellectual dishonesty and ignoring of inconvenient facts that don't fit the narrative, or twisting of the storylines to create a confirmation bias, to the point that I am just finding myself really disappointed.
I wanted to learn about women's experiences in the industry, and the franchise- and to a degree I am- but it just ends up where I have to take everything I'm reading with a grain of salt, just because of the bias and inaccuracy I can see in the areas I do know about.
And how do you know she's twisting facts? Seems suss to me.
I had to really search to find examples of what they mean by that.
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