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Spoilers Russell T. Davies Returns to Doctor Who as New Showrunner

It's kind of surprising that Disney doesn't have a Star Wars TV series on ABC. Doesn't have to be as epically expensive as Andor reportedly was, but surely it would draw a lot more viewers. Star Wars is a much bigger mainstream phenomenon than Doctor Who or Star Trek.
Is the explanation not simply that they want people to subscribe to D+, rather than see Star Wars on free tv?
 
Only old people still watch network tv I am afraid. To them Star Wars is those movies they took their kids to see back in the late 70's, early 80's. :)
 
The 12th Doctor rocks up with his sonic shades, "Oh Clara, I just popped into Glastonbury 2025, sang on stage with Franz Ferdinand, no biggie"


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And then the 15th Doctor showed up to introduce Jade

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Capaldi looks like he stepped out of Series 8... which was eleven years ago. Time has gone weird.
This will sound insensitive to Jodie, but I'm just being honest: He should've stayed, as the Tom Baker of the new era, and the Chibnall era, even if it was functionally the exact same, would've been more easy to take in with Peter Capaldi as the Doctor.

Perhaps the definitive Doctor Who.
 
I could totally headcanon that! Peter is Ultra Cool.


The 12th doctor- And then I sang with the Scottish rock band named after Franz Ferdinand

;)

I love this comment.

It’s now officially part of my head cannon. That this song was written in the late 1800s by the actual franz ferdinad and doctor took all his music and gave it to the band and that’s why they took the name.




This will sound insensitive to Jodie, but I'm just being honest: He should've stayed, as the Tom Baker of the new era, and the Chibnall era, even if it was functionally the exact same, would've been more easy to take in with Peter Capaldi as the Doctor.

Perhaps the definitive Doctor Who.


In another place and time.

The Doctor and Clara visit Glastonbury to stop an alien disguised as someone attending Glastonbury ;)
 
I'll be honest too. He could have been a definitive Doctor if Moffat had provided better writing and not wasted a couple of years on arcs like "Am I an asshole?" and "Does hybrid actually mean anything in English?" Moffat took too long to figure out how best to use Capaldi as the Doctor. Jodie Whittaker and Chris Chibnall were a welcome reset.
What a load. Are we actually still suggesting the trite line "Capaldi would've been better without series 8 and 9" when those very series are among the show's best? And of course you would welcome the Chibster bullshit as a "welcome reset" because all Chibster really had to offer, besides the ugliest looking TARDIS console room, was more boring, mystery defying lore. But if you weren't negatively disposes against the Hybrid you'd realize that Hell Bent is one of the greatest DW stories ever, as it makes fun of lore revelations and actually focuses on what the show is really all about: The Doctor, and his companion.
 
What a load. Are we actually still suggesting the trite line "Capaldi would've been better without series 8 and 9" when those very series are among the show's best? And of course you would welcome the Chibster bullshit as a "welcome reset" because all Chibster really had to offer, besides the ugliest looking TARDIS console room, was more boring, mystery defying lore. But if you weren't negatively disposes against the Hybrid you'd realize that Hell Bent is one of the greatest DW stories ever, as it makes fun of lore revelations and actually focuses on what the show is really all about: The Doctor, and his companion.

Well said.
 
What a load. Are we actually still suggesting the trite line "Capaldi would've been better without series 8 and 9" when those very series are among the show's best? And of course you would welcome the Chibster bullshit as a "welcome reset" because all Chibster really had to offer, besides the ugliest looking TARDIS console room, was more boring, mystery defying lore. But if you weren't negatively disposes against the Hybrid you'd realize that Hell Bent is one of the greatest DW stories ever, as it makes fun of lore revelations and actually focuses on what the show is really all about: The Doctor, and his companion.

How can you say that when all the evidence is right there in front of you, the show gained more viewers when Chibnall took over from Moffet, and that rise in viewership continued in leaps and bounds when RTD returned, to the point were the show today is a massive success with streaming services fighting to get the rights to stream it, a 2025 xmas special in the bag, and the 2026 season already filming, with 2027 and 2028 already on order thanks to how confident the BBC are with the fantastic increasing live viewing and iplayer streaming numbers the show has been pulling since Moffet left.... ...........oh wait!!! Lol
 
What a load. Are we actually still suggesting the trite line "Capaldi would've been better without series 8 and 9" when those very series are among the show's best? And of course you would welcome the Chibster bullshit as a "welcome reset" because all Chibster really had to offer, besides the ugliest looking TARDIS console room, was more boring, mystery defying lore. But if you weren't negatively disposes against the Hybrid you'd realize that Hell Bent is one of the greatest DW stories ever, as it makes fun of lore revelations and actually focuses on what the show is really all about: The Doctor, and his companion.

It’s quite amazing how much of those Capaldi seasons predict what is coming down the pipe and either does it properly, or sends it up, or both. And then ends on a speech reminding everyone what the point of the Doctor is.
In much the same way, the Smith Era works at turning some RTD things up to eleven, before removing them and showing why they don’t work long term, and even give River a speech about why being in love with the Doctor doesn’t work.

I actually find it quite sad that people suggest all the ‘woke’ stuff they don’t like started with Moffat. The opposite is very much true.
 
What a load.

Ah, this will be a well-reasoned and respectful response, I can tell.

Are we actually still suggesting the trite line "Capaldi would've been better without series 8 and 9"

No, we're suggesting Capaldi would have been better if Moffat had written him better, and not as an asshole. The Ninth Doctor's attitude towards Mickey was bad enough. Twelve's attitude towards Danny Pink was worse. Twelve has a few personality transplants after that, but they feel like abrupt changes rather than growth or development.

when those very series are among the show's best?

Dark Water/Death in Heaven was a nonsensical mess of pure fantasy with some revelations about how death and the afterlife work in the Doctor Who universe that we'll probably never hear about again. Kill the Moon was also pure fantasy with an obvious abortion subtext that seemed to surprise its creators when people commented on it. The Capaldi era's nosedive in the ratings has been attributed to young fangirls missing Matt Smith, but the way the Doctor and his stories were written seem likely to have been a factor as well.

And of course you would welcome the Chibster bullshit as a "welcome reset" because all Chibster really had to offer, besides the ugliest looking TARDIS console room, was more boring, mystery defying lore.

For most of the first two seasons, what Chibnall was offering was a series of largely standalone Doctor Who stories that weren't part of some timey-wimey arc. It was going back to an older approach in Doctor Who storytelling, where you're getting a complete story this week and then it's another one next week. Flux was obviously different, but due to Covid, the Flux we got wasn't the Flux Chibnall originally planned. He had to deal with the kind of behind the scenes crisis that Moffat and Davies never encountered, so it's not surprising it was a mess.

But if you weren't negatively disposes against the Hybrid you'd realize that Hell Bent is one of the greatest DW stories ever, as it makes fun of lore revelations and actually focuses on what the show is really all about: The Doctor, and his companion.

Moffat making fun of lore is an interesting perspective, considering he built a lot of it.
 
This will sound insensitive to Jodie, but I'm just being honest: He should've stayed, as the Tom Baker of the new era, and the Chibnall era, even if it was functionally the exact same, would've been more easy to take in with Peter Capaldi as the Doctor.

Perhaps the definitive Doctor Who.

Not to the general public.

It was when he took over the ratings started to plunge. In particular people seem to have blanked out just how shockingly bad the ratings for his last series were.
 
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