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What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

I've said it before, but I would absolute watch a serious spy show about Starfleet Intelligence officers hunting down and arresting Section 31 operatives before they can carry out one of their plans. You could have actual spy work, gun fights, spaceship chases, a mole in the team they have to flush out, proper moral ambiguity. Make it the closest thing to Star Trek: Andor (except the folks in the intelligence organisation are the good guys and the other guys doing assassinations are the bad guys).

I dunno, maybe it's the wrong time for that kind of series.
I'd rather see a proper "Section 31" TV show be a inverted version of the ALIAS TV show.

So 'Section 31' would take the role of 'SD-6', but all their actions are for the benefit / safety of the UFP.

But all actions are done in secret by clandestine civilians who live as regular citizens in the UFP who have cover jobs and their real jobs are to be secret agents.
 
True. But neither is Sisko. (I guess a command officer should know a general outline of history, though.)
Sisko did say studying about the 21st century was a hobby of his when he and Bashir were being walked into the Sanctuary District, so it makes sense Sisko would know about the Bell Riots.




Starfleet Marines exist, and they are the military successors of the MACO's.
Change my mind. Nvm. You won't. :lol:

In my head canon the ground infantry strike team we see on Nimbus III in Star Trek V is the late 23rd century equivalent of the MACOs.

Plus DS9's "NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG, season 5. They are definitely a different uniform than other Starfleet officers we see.
 
The fact that it is "established canon" seems to mean a lot more to you than it does to me.
I don't ignore what Paramount deems as "Trek Canon", if it's inconvenient to me.

That includes controversial topics like:
- Section 31
- Discovery
- Spore Drive & Mycelial Network.
- JJ-Verse
- etc.

I just make it work within the larger context of the Trek Universe.
 
I don't ignore what Paramount deems as "Trek Canon", if it's inconvenient to me.
I do. I pick and choose what I want and toss the rest, because it is a fictional universe created for entertainment and I am an audience member and consumer, not a writer or producer, and in the grand scheme of things, none of this matters anyway.

I have never seen a single episode of Discovery, have never watched the Section 31 movie, have only seen 2 of the 3 JJ-verse films, have never seen Short Treks, and have only seen the smallest smattering of Strange New Worlds, Lower Decks, and Prodigy. The only modern Trek show I watched from beginning to end was Picard, and the only season I really like is the one that others on here quickly decry as fan service and memberberries. (For that matter, I've seen less than five complete episodes of Enterprise as well.)

The modern Trek universe, under Abrams and Kurtzman, just holds no appeal to me at all. And that's fine. It's entertainment. I enjoy what I enjoy and don't worry about the rest. We're not debating constitutional law here. We're talking about "head canon."

If you like it all, or feel that canon is important enough to have to be worried about even when you don't like it, God bless you. But don't speak about canon as though the rest of us have some moral and legal obligation to listen to or care what every random Trek writer has ever written down on a piece of paper.
 
If you like it all, or feel that canon is important enough to have to be worried about even when you don't like it, God bless you. But don't speak about canon as though the rest of us have some moral and legal obligation to listen to or care what every random Trek writer has ever written down on a piece of paper.
You're more than free to do whatever you like.
That's what part of a free fandom allows.
 
add to that you have federation security agents, like that guy who told McCoy to watch what he was saying, in TSFS. He didn't identify as Starfleet, and was plainclothes. sorry if someone already mentioned him.
I assume The Feds have their own agents not tied to Starfleet. Sort of like in real life.
 
I assume The Feds have their own agents not tied to Starfleet. Sort of like in real life.
and the dreaded Bureau of Replicator Inspectors. The BRI know what you've been making.

and of course the Time Agents, whoever the hell they work for. Probably Starfleet since we now know that SPOILER ended actually being SPOILER from SPOILER
 
Sisko did say studying about the 21st century was a hobby of his when he and Bashir were being walked into the Sanctuary District, so it makes sense Sisko would know about the Bell Riots.

How convenient that he just happened to have that as an interest, even if only for the purposes of a bit of exposition to the audience ;)

(I'll grant that it isn't necessarily out of character, as he also has a fascination with baseball, which also went out of style at some point in that century.)
 
add to that you have federation security agents, like that guy who told McCoy to watch what he was saying, in TSFS. He didn't identify as Starfleet, and was plainclothes. sorry if someone already mentioned him.
Kind of like the Federation's CIA in that one regard.
 
How convenient that he just happened to have that as an interest, even if only for the purposes of a bit of exposition to the audience ;)

(I'll grant that it isn't necessarily out of character, as he also has a fascination with baseball, which also went out of style at some point in that century.)
If it is one of 'the watershed events of the 21st century', it's easy to see he would know about the Bell Riots. Particularly since Bashir said the era was 'too depressing', Bashir might not have bothered with the era.
 
How convenient that he just happened to have that as an interest, even if only for the purposes of a bit of exposition to the audience ;)

(I'll grant that it isn't necessarily out of character, as he also has a fascination with baseball, which also went out of style at some point in that century.)
If it is one of 'the watershed events of the 21st century', it's easy to see he would know about the Bell Riots. Particularly since Bashir said the era was 'too depressing', Bashir might not have bothered with the era.
 
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