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The Kelvin uniforms were blue for command. And that's Prime Timeline.
That needs head canoning as to the why? Then we have TMP with blues and beiges used for random reasons, with Command in blue, except they have a different badge color on the delta.

The Kelvin having blue I figured was that intermediate step from jumpsuits to pullovers.
 
That needs head canoning as to the why? Then we have TMP with blues and beiges used for random reasons, with Command in blue, except they have a different badge color on the delta.

The Kelvin having blue I figured was that intermediate step from jumpsuits to pullovers.
Besides blue (command) tunics, there were also green (operations), white (medical), and gray (science) tunics seen aboard the Kelvin, assuming I've interpreted it correctly.
 
Star Trek is not rubbish. Lost in Space after season one was (Sorry Bill Mumy, not your fault. )

The Star Lost, was double deep rubbish.

But Star Trek...no. Yes, some episodes could have done with a bit more polishing...especially season three.
 
Think about it logically, he's running TNG along with DS9 and prepping for the eventual ST TNG movies.

If he was there, why would he have hired her?
He didn't fit his "image" of what he wanted out of his actress.

So he sent his casting directors to do their jobs.
So if there was a particular body type he was looking for (even bustier than Farrell? Really?) he didn't tell his casting director to get someone like that?

I have no involvment with casting, but I would have expected that if the boss wasn't there in person at the auditions he'd at least look at the headshots and video of the ones the casting director thought were the most promising. Even one miscast regular cast member would have a major effect on the show.
 
I will also point out that everybody has a line. Try changing Spock's Mom's name to Sue Ellen. Really, how many people know the name of a character who only appeared in one episode live action, one cartoon, and one movie? Surely that's minutia.
Minutia is the names that were only said once on screen.
 
Star Trek or not, first-run syndication was considered lesser exposure than network and the pay rates for everyone involved - actors, writers, etc. - were lower. If I'm not misremembering, residual rates were also less generous.
I just watched Jonathan Frakes' interview on Katie Sackhoff's podcast today, and he said that because TNG was a syndicated series, the actors were earning 40% SAG minimum. That was part of how Paramount made the numbers work.

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Well they ain't gonna make money off the existing fanbase forever. But only they will know when new fans "show up".
Catering to old fans has limited appeal.


There's no respect problem here; fans want one thing, casuals another, and the studio is trying to balance it in some way and maybe make some money.

I'm over hearing how canon needs "respecting." It doesn't need any such thing.
 
So Berman is just using your own philosophy of not forgetting or forgiving; yet you think he should have forgiven Wang's actions and hooked him up with more opportunities...just cause? Lol. You're just shining a big light on your own faulty philosophy.
He hired him in the first place, if he wants to get the most out of his investment in his cast, then he should give him a chance.

I don't work for Berman, I'm not trying to make money off of other people's talent.

I'm not the one who has invested significant amounts of money into the cast.

I don't have the same obligations as part of the fandom.

Doing what's best for business is a completely seperate issue from what fans in the greater outside fandom should do on a personal level.

What you do as a individual fan falls completely outside of what you should do as a businessman trying to run a sucessful operation.

Still not healthy to be THIS angry about it.
It doesn't really concern you or anybody else how angry I am about it.

It's my choice to be angry, not yours, not anybody elses.

So if there was a particular body type he was looking for (even bustier than Farrell? Really?) he didn't tell his casting director to get someone like that?
::shrugs:: I have no idea what the casting pool for that role looked at that time.

I have no involvment with casting, but I would have expected that if the boss wasn't there in person at the auditions he'd at least look at the headshots and video of the ones the casting director thought were the most promising. Even one miscast regular cast member would have a major effect on the show.
Every person is different, who knows how busy he was at that time.

Catering to old fans has limited appeal.


There's no respect problem here; fans want one thing, casuals another, and the studio is trying to balance it in some way and maybe make some money.

I'm over hearing how canon needs "respecting." It doesn't need any such thing.
Then it'll fail in both and make less money.
 
Then it'll fail in both and make less money.
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See, they take it the wrong way. They "respect canon" bullshit means they emphasize only that and don't actually do anything new. That's the frustration of mine. It's not respect; it's overindulgence to promise me, the viewer, that it really is Star Trek.

Well, I don't need that. I will watch good stories.

It's my choice to be angry, not yours, not anybody elses.
In this fandom we work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity.
 
See, they take it the wrong way. They "respect canon" bullshit means they emphasize only that and don't actually do anything new.
"Respecting Canon" doesn't mean you don't do anything new, it just means you work with the existing lore & world that was built and add on to it in a logical manner.

That takes people who put thought into their world building, it's not slap dash or just ass pull.

You literally put ALOT of time into thinking about all sides of your world design that you will eventually put in for the audience to see.

That's the frustration of mine. It's not respect; it's overindulgence to promise me, the viewer, that it really is Star Trek.

Well, I don't need that. I will watch good stories.
We can have both.

In this fandom we work to better ourselves and the rest of humanity.
Okay, I have no qualms with that, but what does that have to do with my personal grudges?

Those are my choice, nobody elses.
 
I’m pretty sure during the Berman years that directors had little to no say as to what was going on.
That's still fairly standard in television. The executive producer/showrunner is the one calling the shots and the episodic directors are basically traffic cops. It's only folks like Olatunde Osunsanmi who have directed so many times that they're also an EP that really get to flex their muscles.
 
"Respecting Canon" doesn't mean you don't do anything new, it just means you work with the existing lore & world that was built and add on to it in a logical manner.

That takes people who put thought into their world building, it's not slap dash or just ass pull.

You literally put ALOT of time into thinking about all sides of your world design that you will eventually put in for the audience to see.
Star Trek didn't do that in TOS. I guess the writers really hated it.

We can have both.
No, we can't. People are demanding minutia over characters. And if the story fails, it's the minutia's fault, and the writers are not "true fans." It's a nonstarter to me.

Okay, I have no qualms with that, but what does that have to do with my personal grudges?

Those are my choice, nobody elses.
Because if something impacts us we are all connected together. Shouldn't we want to get better, to be healthier and to grow?
 
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