Climate not being important in food production is the far more interesting subject.
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Climate not being important in food production is the far more interesting subject.
One might argue they are one in the same.
Obviously not on that ship, when scientists are invested in their personal research projects.
Or you can mass breed animals to feed a population that is "On the Brink of Starvation".
Beggers can't be choosers. If there's food available, and you have the choice to eat or starve, most people will choose to eat.
Even if it's animals that aren't the ones you would usually eat.
The USS Grissom says hi.
A very military beatdown of Riker by Picard, in "The Pegasus".
Or, from "Encounter at Farpoint".
Ask the folks on AR-558 how much of a hybrid service Starfleet is. See: "The Siege of AR-558".
They were doing a more "Serious Military Related Task".
That's where the Command Structure matters more.
So it was followed properly at that time.
Yes, in the middle of a Fire Fight & a all out war, it makes sense at that moment to enforce the Command Structure.
Or you can use replicators and not torture innocent, possibly intelligent animals. The latter not seemingly being on anyone's radar, except Edward Larkin. And he paid for it...
You seriously don't know how any of this stuff works. Command structure isn't something you can turn off and on, on a whim. It takes years of dedication by everyone involved to make it work.
Or ask the soldiers in "NOR THE BATTLE TO THE STRONG".
Or any Starfleet officer that served during the...
Talarian conflict
Cardassian War
Tzenkethi War
Dominion War
Or however many Klingon Wars the Federation had.
Or better yet, Chief O'Brien. Or Benjamin Sisko. Both officers served in multiple conflicts.
Or any Starfleet officer that served during the...
Talarian conflict
Cardassian War
Tzenkethi War
Dominion War
Or however many Klingon Wars the Federation had.
Or better yet, Chief O'Brien. Or Benjamin Sisko. Both officers served in multiple conflicts.
It's more situational, there are times when formalitties are dropped to get things done.
Not when the captain talks. Captain tells you to go take care of business, you go take care of business or you get relieved of duty. See: "Chain of Command".
Hybrid of what? It's not a fucking mule.
It kind of is to a degree.
StarFleet is a Hybrid of a:
- Military Organization
- Exploration Organization
- Scientific Research & Discovery
- Engineering Corp
- Diplomacy Service
- Whatever the UFP & StarFleet Upper Brass comes up with to assign to it's Captains.
If that means being a Diplomatic/Cargo Transport for important diplomats, so be it.
How many times have we seen a StarFleet StarShip carry diplomats from point A to B?
StarFleet isn't a pure Classic Military in the traditional sense. That's why I call it a "Hybrid Service" where it does MANY things outside of what a classical Military would do.
Jean Luc Picard says as much in TNG: "Peak Performance".
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With the Borg threat in mind, Starfleet stages a war-game simulation pitting Captain Picard and the Enterprise against Commander Riker and the eighty-year-old starship Hathaway. However, when the Ferengi suddenly attack, the Enterprise is crippled, forcing Picard into a seemingly no-win...
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Then explain to us the difference?
I've always seen that as a bit of a conceit on Picard's part. And it's an understandable one given that when he entered Starfleet, the Federation was at peace with the Klingons, the Romulans were in seclusion and the Cardassians hadn't grown to be a major threat yet. Sure, there was the occasional conflict here and there, but for the most part the Starfleet that Jean-Luc Picard came up in would have probably focused less on military maneuvers. After Next Generation season 1, with the return of the Romulans and the coming of the Borg, the switch to a military standing becomes clear. By season 2, Starfleet is building star bases along the Romulan border in order to remind the Romulans that Starfleet is there, and they start military war games in response to the Borg threat.
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They basically pivot to become whatever the situation calls for, and have personnel for each contingency.
Picard was always full of pretentious shit.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck then it is a duck. And if it walks like a military, talks like a military and fights dam wars like a military then it IS a military.
Well "show" vs. "tell" and all that. Star Trek has been pretty consistent over the six decades in showing us it's a military. It defends the Federation, first and foremost. There is formal combat training. Strongly adhered to hierarchy and command structure. Courts martial. And decoration for combat service.
Because one character told otherwise during the height of the obsessed with the smell of Roddenberry's farts phase doesn't change that.
Because one character told otherwise during the height of the obsessed with the smell of Roddenberry's farts phase doesn't change that.
Yeah this was the weird time that apparently no one was scared of death and interpersonal conflicts didn't exist.
Obviously Starfleet was experimenting putting things in the water for a couple of years
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