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Spoilers The Controversial Star Wars Opinion Thread

You have been warned, figuratively, that your intent behind this phraseology is that of trolling or worse, a dogwhistle. I admit up to this point, StarTrek1701, you have escaped my notice. That time is at an end.
My intent is neither to troll nor am I dogwhistling. Why is every admin and mod so fucking touchy about every fucking thing?
Yeah I'll take the warning or whatever, not the first time you or your buddies had it out for me.
Woe. Woe, StarTrek1701, for you have been noticed. The bell draws back, ready to toll.

Will it toll for thee?
Are you threatening me?
 
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Indeed, and it should be noted The Acolyte was actually the second most viewed show on Disney+ last year.

That's a fairly meaningless statistic, especially when one considers how little competition from new D+ shows it had. When determining if it was a ratings success, only two factors matter: baseline subscriber numbers, and the number of new subscribers the show produced. For instance, House of the Dragon is a very expensive show, but the expense is justified because MAX has a large number of subscribers who expect and demand premium offerings.


The fact that such a show can also be considered a failure only proves the streaming model itself is what's broke.

Streaming has hits and flops just like everything else. Given that D+ has only a modest baseline subscriber count, at the huge, feature-level budget The Acolyte was given, it needed to produce a major subscriber boost to be a success. It didn't.
 
Given that D+ has only a modest baseline subscriber count,
Ok, the pissing match over whether The Acolyte is popular or not doesn't interest me, but this... modest? It has, as of the end of 2024 153 million subscribers, 3rd behind Netflix which has 275-300 million because of a 13 year head start, and Amazon Prime at 200 million only because they bundle it with their Amazon Prime service. That is by no means not a "modest" subscriber count. The next closest is Max at 110 million, but that's an aggregate of all of their streaming services as they don't break Max out on its own so it is probably lower, and twice as many as the next on the list, Paramount+ with 72 million. THAT is a modest subscriber base.
 
^ Huh, you're right; I was totally mistaken about D+'s numbers. Welp, that just makes The Acolyte's low viewership compared to other streaming series on other platforms all the more notable.
 
Coping with what? That Andor is a failure? Yes, you all should learn to cope about that. :lol:

late to the party, but i haven't seen anything remotely trollworthy in this thread? everyone has their own personality and posting style, and in some cases, unique personality traits on here. I'm confused? People just don't like your style, but that shouldn't be cause for alarm. Ignore posters that you don't like has worked for decades. I'm confused?
 
Why in the wide world of sports should I care what the numbers are? Is there some sort of competition for who has the most views and therefore is the best product?

What the heck do I need to cope with? If the numbers are poor they don't make more. If they're good they make more. Oh no...
Was I talking to you? :confused:
 
It's a discussion forum. It's open to all.

Regardless, it's a question I always have when viewing numbers come up.
Viewing numbers are not the same anymore in the streaming era.
Numbers back in the day that would get shows cancelled even before it hit 13 episodes are nowadays considered major successes.
And studios are dumping money like it's going out of style on these shows with very bad ROI.
120 years of data and they still can't predict what'll sell and what won't.
 
Viewing numbers are not the same anymore in the streaming era.
Numbers back in the day that would get shows cancelled even before it hit 13 episodes are nowadays considered major successes.
And studios are dumping money like it's going out of style on these shows with very bad ROI.
120 years of data and they still can't predict what'll sell and what won't.
Right. So the numbers mean...


...nothing to the average audience member.
 
Viewing numbers are not the same anymore in the streaming era.
Numbers back in the day that would get shows cancelled even before it hit 13 episodes are nowadays considered major successes.
And studios are dumping money like it's going out of style on these shows with very bad ROI.
120 years of data and they still can't predict what'll sell and what won't.
it really pisses me off, realizing the amount of amazing shows that have been cancelled for "low numbers" that would be considered massive successes today. its all so disappointing.
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