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Spoilers Andor - Season 2

I'm actually wondering if we'll see cameos from Sabine, Hera, or Ezra now that we have live action actors for them, although Gilroy doesn't seem the type to engage in that sort of unnecessary fan winking (then again this is the guy who mentioned the Rakata of all things rather obviously TWICE so who knows)
 
I wouldn't hold my breath on that. For starters, those three characters are a decade younger than they would be in Ahsoka, and while you might be able to get away with that with Hera, Ezra and Sabine are supposed to be teenagers at this point, and there's no way those actors will pass for teenagers.
 
I wouldn't hold my breath on that. For starters, those three characters are a decade younger than they would be in Ahsoka, and while you might be able to get away with that with Hera, Ezra and Sabine are supposed to be teenagers at this point, and there's no way those actors will pass for teenagers.
You do know that Diego Luna is like a gazillion years older than the literal title character, Andor, he's supposed to be playing right?
 
We don’t know if that was him. Could have been a story group insert, or one of the other writers on staff who he has said are way bigger fans then him
Maybe but if so those bigger fan writers missed the obvious continuity error in Dedra's dialogue, mainly when Dedra claims she was raised in an "Imperial" kinderblock after her parents were arrested at 3 years old. Unless she's only 18 years old (and was a supervisor last season at 17 years old), this makes no sense. The only explanation is that Dedra retroactively calls any Republic kinderblock after Palpatine's election Imperial and she's really born circa 35 BBY, but honestly this is obviously an error that the writers missed.
 
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So this makes possibly a lot more sense given the secret meeting of Krennic's group and Dedre's plan to take over Ghorman, it makes sense that the season will lead to this event.

Now i wonder if we'll see a scene that was animated in Rebels also be shown in Andor at the end of it, would be cool though.
 
They cut the scene in Rise of Skywalker where that civilian fleet all turned on each other and blew themselves up after Palpatine was confirmed to have been killed again.
Leadership is important in situations like this. You can study history and realize how many movements collapse due to lack of a unified vision and difficulties in leadership. Or, in the absence of leadership, how sectarian people will become.
The only explanation is that Dedra retroactively calls any Republic kinderblock after Palpatine's election Imperial and she's really born circa 35 BBY, but honestly this is obviously an error that the writers missed.
She clearly is Imperial through and through. Even the Senate is an "Imperial Senate" though it predates the Empire by a thousand years, give or take.
 
I think both the wedding and the jungle scenes were about chaos. There is no Rebellion, per se. Just a bunch of different groups who hate the Empire. The aren't allied or organized. And with out structure and leadership they will turn on themselves as Maya's group did. With Mon, she's seeing the price of rebellion. Her daughter has embraced the past, her old friend has betrayed her and will pay the price. So she just lets loose and dances like there is no tomorrow. l.
There's no Rebellion per se? That wasn't impression I had received from Season 1.
 
They cut the scene in Rise of Skywalker where that civilian fleet all turned on each other and blew themselves up after Palpatine was confirmed to have been killed again.
Mostly I just mean this was the first scene in Andor where i could see someone like Hondo just show up out of the jungle and it would still fit the tone of the scene. Not a criticism in either direction, I love Andor for what it is, and I love the rest of Star Wars. Feels like this is maybe the only moment of levity we're going to get with Cassian as things become progressively grim.
 
There's no Rebellion per se? That wasn't impression I had received from Season 1.
In the old continuity there's a formal founding of the Rebel Alliance that involved Vader's secret apprentice, Mon Mothma, Bail Organa, and another guy meeting up and signing some stuff, getting caught by Vader, and escaping. A major continuity error involved Bail suffering no repercussions from this (Mon Mothma spent the rest of the war on the run), which was never addressed before the old continuity was purged by Disney. Ironically Disney would soft-repeat the error by having Bail be identified as a likely collaborator of Obi-Wan's in the Kenobi show by Vader and the Inquisitors, but again suffer no repercussions (they do handwave it by having Palpatine show up and order Vader to drop the whole investigation, although this still doesn't explain why they continue to make no attempt to arrest and/or interrogate him by the time the Rebellion escalates in the 1977 film).

The formal founding of the Alliance hasn't been shown in the new continuity yet, although it was mentioned in the Rebels cartoon as having happened between episodes. It will likely be depicted in Andor.
 
She clearly is Imperial through and through. Even the Senate is an "Imperial Senate" though it predates the Empire by a thousand years, give or take.
I think there's a little bit of Orwellian historical revisionism going on there too. See also Kenari being referred to as an Imperial mining planet and restricted as toxic by Imperial order, despite the fact the incident happened before the Empire was declared. I think any Republic institution that's been co-opted by the Empire is just habitually referred to as Imperial, regardless of context. Indeed there may be something of a social taboo against even mentioning the Republic in polite conversation.
Mostly I just mean this was the first scene in Andor where i could see someone like Hondo just show up out of the jungle and it would still fit the tone of the scene. Not a criticism in either direction, I love Andor for what it is, and I love the rest of Star Wars. Feels like this is maybe the only moment of levity we're going to get with Cassian as things become progressively grim.
Star Wars is always a mix of drama and comedy. It's the weird, idiosyncratic touches that makes it feel alive. I think people also forget how funny Rogue One was at times: "Quiet!" <SMACK> "And there's a fresh one if you mouth off again!", "Clear of Hostiles" <Baze primes his repeater> "One hostile!", "Are you kidding me? I'm blind!", "Jyn, I'll be there for you . . . Cassian said I had to."
Granted most of it was Alan Tudyk riffing, but still it's not like 'Rogue One' was constantly dull and depressing.
 
I was kind of getting a feeling that Luthen is getting ready to kill Tay.
Oh yeah. We knew Tay was doomed as soon as Mon talked to Luthen.

I was a little surprised to see Dedrea and Syril are a couple now, I did not expect.
I didn't expect it, but I kinda like it.

No joke, I would watch a regular 30-minute sitcom about the crazy domestic life of Syril and Dedra with Eedy crashing the place every week.
Right? I loved Dedra telling Eedy what the situation really is!

I wonder, with Brasso's death at the conclusion of this trilogy, if we'll see Wilmon and Bix die in each of the following trilogies, as more of Andor's old life is chipped away and becomes the hardened man we meet in Rogue One.
I think so.

Lastly, the bastards left poor B2EMO behind!
I know!!!

Mon's last dance was wild. Pretty sure she caught Luthen's meaning, even though she said she didn't.
Yes, and decided to drink and dance her heartache away. Just lovely.

The opening scene with the nervous turncoat mechanic was sublime.
I adored Cassian's pep talk to her!
 
Bix die in each of the following trilogies, as more of Andor's old life is chipped away and becomes the hardened man we meet in Rogue One.
Strangely enough, I think Bix dying makes Rogue One less tragic, not more. Cassian's last thoughts as the Death Star is vaporizing him would be "Well, at least I'll be seeing Bix soon."

If Bix was living happily on Alderaan as of Rogue One, that makes Cassian's decision to join the suicide Death Star plan theft mission MORE tragic as he has something to lose and is sacrificing even that for the Rebellion. His last thoughts will be, "I'm dying and Bix may never know what happened to me if the Rebels can't escape from the Scarif system".

Bix already being dead means Cassian already has nothing, ergo he has nothing to lose and joining that suicide mission is less meaningful and less tragic.
 
It was a clear allegory of how the resistance to fascist governments (or an opposition political party against an incumbent fascist government) quickly devolves into anarchy and in-fighting when no clear leadership is around.
I definitely got the thematic and narrative meaning. But I could have gotten the same points if they trimmed those scenes a bit.

It dragged for me a little.

But that's my only gripe about this excellent initial arc, which ended with a true gut punch.
 
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