What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Yistaan]

Picard was speaking only of the worlds of the Federation.
Kirk talking to another Human, was speaking of all the worlds Humans were on. The majority of Human worlds are not a part of the Federation

It kind of makes sense after what we've learned about the Federation. The Federation has no money and it's hard to accumulate wealth (Starfleet heroes like Riker and Picard don't even have personal starships seemingly in the Picard show) because you're working only to "better yourselves" (presumably having a non-paying job is a requirement if you're an adult Fed citizen) but on the flip side poverty is "eliminated" in the bare minimum sense (you're guaranteed a Raffi-style trailer home and a replicator for food and clothing).

Humans who want to accumulate money, property, etc. may want to risk it out there as not part of the Federation. So there's a tradeoff.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

It kind of makes sense after what we've learned about the Federation. The Federation has no money and it's hard to accumulate wealth (Starfleet heroes like Riker and Picard don't even have personal starships seemingly in the Picard show) because you're working only to "better yourselves" (presumably having a non-paying job is a requirement if you're an adult Fed citizen) but on the flip side poverty is "eliminated" in the bare minimum sense (you're guaranteed a Raffi-style trailer home and a replicator for food and clothing).

Humans who want to accumulate money, property, etc. may want to risk it out there as not part of the Federation. So there's a tradeoff.

Yet Federation Credits exist & we know that Cristobal Rios is "Ex-StarFleet" and he wasn't just given the "La Sirena".
So he must've had some form of savings to trade "Federation Credits" for that ship.

StarShips can't be cheap, especially one of his size which seems on the medium size for Fast Cargo Freightors.

 

[Tallguy]

It means Gene was a little (check that - a lot) wrapped around the axle with injecting small bits of unnecessary world-building when he should have been more focused on crafting a tight story.

No, I meant literal meaning. It's not in the story. It's part of Kirk's introduction telling his own backstory. It's not some extended sequence. It's one line where Kirk explains why he's named James.

Does it matter? It was in there at some point, and thankfully removed before the final cut was released, because it was fucking dumb and unnecessary to any of the many hundreds of versions of plot revisions they went through.

It was never in any draft. There are lots of other things that were that didn't make it on to film. But "love instructors" was never a plot point. If someone has an early draft that includes it I'd love to hear otherwise.

I'll be the first to admit that Gene's gotta Gene. And yup, it's almost all about sex. But people seem to hear "love instructor" and jump to this whole plot thread that just couldn't be shown on TV or in a movie. (Not even Logan's Run.) Nope. One line. "This is why I'm named James."

 

[Snowdrop82]

The Federation has way too little design variation and the saucer design is over-rated. It makes sense for the lead ships but I would appreciate more Alien influence in ship designs and construction.

 

[cooleddie74]

That's why I head canon the Starfleet ships of the late 32nd century as composed of a lot of alien design ideas and not composed almost exclusively of Earthcentric hull layout ideas. The Nog and Eisenberg-class to which it belongs might be, at least in part, a Ferengi design from that era.

 

[Nerys Myk]

The Federation has way too little design variation and the saucer design is over-rated. It makes sense for the lead ships but I would appreciate more Alien influence in ship designs and construction.

I would have like to have seen a non saucer and nacelles version of the NX-01 to imply that there were non-human contributions to Starfleet designs. But Trek has done a lousy job of dispelling the homo sapiens club charge.

 

[Yistaan]

For all we know the now much derided retro 1960s look of TOS ships were done by alien interior designers. Said alien designers probably designed the TMP uniforms too thinking they were fashionable (and the humans were too polite to say anything).

 

[Nerys Myk]

For all we know the now much derided retro 1960s look of TOS ships were done by alien interior designers. Said alien designers probably designed the TMP uniforms too thinking they were fashionable (and the humans were too polite to say anything).

"derided".

 

[Snowdrop82]

I would have like to have seen a non saucer and nacelles version of the NX-01 to imply that there were non-human contributions to Starfleet designs. But Trek has done a lousy job of dispelling the homo sapiens club charge.

I would have definitely wanted a non saucer and non nacelles version of the Enterprise NX-01, as well as the other Enterprises.

My impression is that the whole nacelles and Saucer just looks unbalanced.


I like this type of design.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I love the ring ship

 

[cooleddie74]

The Daedalus-class having a spherical main hull is at least a nice change of pace for early United Earth and Federation starships. If that class was indeed the workhorse of Starfleet during the Earth-Romulan War then there'd be lots of reasons to recycle the spherical hull concept in later decades and centuries, but other than the Olympic-class from the TNG/DS9/VOY Era that idea didn't seem to have legs.

 

[Snowdrop82]

I love the ring ship
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I wish they did a series with this type of ship.

 

[cooleddie74]

Two background drawings or paintings in canon Trek aren't enough. I sort of wish one had been at the Fleet Museum with the NX-01 Refit and Enterprise-A.

 

[Snowdrop82]

Two background drawings or paintings in canon Trek aren't enough. I sort of wish one had been at the Fleet Museum with the NX-01 Refit and Enterprise-A.

The NX-01 Refit should have been in the last season of Enterprise with it being given another season.

 

[cooleddie74]

Had UPN and Les Moonves been sensible we'd have gotten both. Doug Drexler was pushing for the Reift to be introduced in Season 5.

 

[Snowdrop82]

Had UPN and Les Moonves been sensible we'd have gotten both. Doug Drexler was pushing for the Reift to be introduced in Season 5.

Enterprise really didn't need the Temporal Cold War arc. Remove that but keep the Xindi Arc as well, but make it not about a Temporal thing as much, can still keep the Sphere Builders but not the Temporal Cold War. The WW2 episode was a dumb concept in my opinion.

 

[cooleddie74]

Yeah, the worst episode of the final season that wasn't the series finale was the second part of the Space Nazi story. Season 4 started rough and ended even worse.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

I watched In A Mirror Darkly yesterday speaking of ENT S04.

I know it’s a fan favorite, but I didn’t think it was very good.

 

[Snowdrop82]

I watched In A Mirror Darkly yesterday speaking of ENT S04.

I know it’s a fan favorite, but I didn’t think it was very good.

I didn't like how Hoshi Sato became Empress. I wanted Archer to take over the Empire.

 

[Farscape One]

Enterprise really didn't need the Temporal Cold War arc. Remove that but keep the Xindi Arc as well, but make it not about a Temporal thing as much, can still keep the Sphere Builders but not the Temporal Cold War. The WW2 episode was a dumb concept in my opinion.

By the Prophets, I couldn't agree more!

The Temporal Cold War is the ONE THING in the entire franchise I would excise from existence.