Why was the USS Enterprise F decommissioned so early?
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I actually enjoy talking to you quite a bit about random shit. I don’t think you have a handle on the realities of TV production.
When you join the production team you can give it a go. But be prepared to be shot down by folks with more authority and experience.
That episode gave me closure that I didn't even know that I needed.
Sadly, it only takes one idiot to create the warnings.There is a reason we have warnings now.
I do, but that's part of the problem with the old 26 ep structure.
Production only has 1 week to get things done for shooting.
I want to change the Schedule to a Trimester System for TV filming and keep the longer Run-Time of modern Streaming shows where 60-minutes of actual content is the norm.
Remember, they had 1 week to shoot for ~45 minutes of TV back in the late 1980's and early 2000's.
Imagine a Trimester Schedule now, where you have ~60 minutes of TV to shoot for and 2 weeks of production.
You only have 17 Episodes per Year to film, but you have a bit more Pre & Post work done for the filming of each episode.
Having 2 weeks of Filming time should help alleviate what is possible.
Pair that up with a "Standard Weekly Release" schedule, you give the entire Production Staff, "More Time" to deliver on the final Weekly Episodic Content.
Higher amounts of integrated CG, so you have less time over-all needed for the live-action filming.
And why I bring up boarding parties is that you can have a 2nd Filming Crew shoot the action scenes necessary while another crew films the main bridge action scenes.
With enemy boarding parties, the options opens up to all sorts of "Action Scenes" while the Bridge crew handle their stuff with the Space Battles.
I'm more on the Lore Writing side & structural side of things.
But I do want to give the Live-Action filming side more time, that's why I'm such a big advocate of the Trimester Schedule for filming and TV series.
10-12 episodes per Season feels too short by most fans.
22-26 episodes per Season feels too long by most production crews.
17 episodes per Season feels just right.
IMO, I believe that would be the new "Goldi-locks zone" for 1-hour (Actual 60 minutes or Run Time for the main content).
That would allow for the 2 weeks to film things instead of the 1 week that we usually see.
This would allow a reasonable "Annual Cadence" that many of us Trek fans are used to.
You don’t think production companies have people investigating these things?
I think they have budgetary issues due to the "Streaming Wars" that screws things over.
On top of scheduling problems and the recent Strikes didn't help.
In the streaming era, we don't have Annual Release Cycles for New Seasons of many shows.
They just show up ready, when it's ready.
That can be Good/Bad depending on how the pipeline & schedule is handled.
I miss the earlier years where TV was regularly scheduled.
That wasn’t what I asked.
These folks have bean counters crunching numbers every single day. I imagine they know their business.
They don't.
And it's not like my phone is in combat.
I say it didn't happen because they don't utilize the experience. First Contact makes zero sense because a whole starship with a crew familiar with the Borg are sent away from the attacking Borg.
You don't just want knowledge but leadership and experience. You have several senior officers and billets need to be filled. Nope, just leave them where they are.
That's not all leadership though.
So you request a new ship assignment. You don't be a dick to another officer and get them demoted because you hate your job.
Straw man argument is a straw man.
Well, it's the whole question of the OP.
The touchscreen is the touchscreen. Vhat can be done?
You would hope they know what their doing.
But I don't have much faith in Bean Counters on getting things right.
They only view things in the lens of $$$.
But StarFleet knows that their Officers eventually get into Ship Battles.
It's not like this hasn't been a problem throughout all of Star Trek.
That was the Admiral's Personal Bias against Captain JLP. He sent them away.
I guess that's the reward for Riker & the Senior Staff for saving Earth, they get to stay together?
True
Who was demoted?
Yet it has still happened for multiple centuries across many shows.
They gave it a one-line reason as to why it's gone.
The Ship was rendered inoperable & unavailable / unusable.
And "It wasn't Worf's Fault" as to why it happened.
I'm sure StarFleet Upper Brass cleared it in the "After Action Report".
That's why Captain Worf is able to say "It wasn't his fault" with confidence & pride.
Kind of like how the Enterprise-D's destruction isn't Captain JLP's fault.
He was busy on Veridian Prime dealing with Solian Toran.
Riker was in command of the Enterprise-D dealing with the Duras Sisters, and they had a "Ace up their Sleeve".
So it wasn't "Captain JLP's Fault" that the Enterprise-D went down.
It was just bad luck that Riker was dealing with a situation where the Duras Sisters had a good trick, one that led them to Victory at the cost of their lives.
Not exploding or causing fires.
That's the first thing.
Since it isn’t your money, don’t worry about it.
Yeah, that’s their job. Sometimes that includes giving sobering reality checks to the creatives.
It was just a Star Trek joke.
Yes, that is their job. To produce a workable script on a budget that is not exorbitant or overly time-intensive.
Indeed. It might even be part of the premise now and not something needing fixing because it's been there for so long.
Poor leadership.
See above.
Decker unit.
And it might just be a feature of the drama.
All this talk about the Enterprise-F and this popped up on my YouTube feed today.
The Titan-A scenes should have been in a refit ENT-E.
Then we should have had a ENT-D + ENT-E flyby scene at the end.
That would have been much better
Considering Frontier Day is supposed to commemorate the NX-01's launch, it should have been at the celebrations. Then we could have had a scene with it, the first Enterprise, the D, the Enterprise from the series which that season is meant to be a celebration of and the Titan A, the future Enterprise, do a flyby together and really get some memberberry juices flowing.
I just came up with better fanank than Lord Terry, and fanwank is his whole thang.
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