You're giving that name far too much credit. Based on how most of the ships with that name ended up, I'd honestly be quite worried about serving on a ship called Enterprise.
Why was the USS Enterprise F decommissioned so early?
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You're giving that name far too much credit. Based on how most of the ships with that name ended up, I'd honestly be quite worried about serving on a ship called Enterprise.
I don't like the idea that the Galaxy Class seems to be outdated. It makes no sense. If your ship designs are only good platforms for 25-35 years, that's really a massive flaw. Look at Klingon designs like the D-7/K't'Inga and the BoP. Look at the longevity of the Excelsior, Miranda, and Oberth classes for other examples.
It always makes me crazy that the writers / producers want to move on from "the old designs" to put their new stamp on things.
It's insane that there is actually a USS Enterprise-G at this point, and that the Galaxy-class are considered out of date. We have jet fighters in the real world that have been around since the 1970's that are fully upgraded platforms and are still extremely useful...are you trying to tell me you can't upgrade the systems of a design like the Galaxy, 400 years in the future?
It always makes me crazy that the writers / producers want to move on from "the old designs" to put their new stamp on things.
It's insane that there is actually a USS Enterprise-G at this point, and that the Galaxy-class are considered out of date. We have jet fighters in the real world that have been around since the 1970's that are fully upgraded platforms and are still extremely useful...are you trying to tell me you can't upgrade the systems of a design like the Galaxy, 400 years in the future?
Maybe the loss of Utopia Palencia was a greater blow that we realized. The Galaxy-class was built there starting with designs from the 2340s. By 2401 those designs are over 50 years old, and they lost the place they used for building them 25 years ago.
While the B-52 is still in use and still getting upgrades, there are limits to what they can do with it. If they did that to a Galaxy-class it be stripping off the nacelles and putting on a modern fast transport's nacelles and warp core while fitting off the shelf sensor packages and weapons modifications.
While the B-52 is still in use and still getting upgrades, there are limits to what they can do with it. If they did that to a Galaxy-class it be stripping off the nacelles and putting on a modern fast transport's nacelles and warp core while fitting off the shelf sensor packages and weapons modifications.
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The Enterprise-A being an old ship getting a sudden renaming is the only one that makes sense. It was a reward for the Enterprise crew who would then serve on it themselves. Plus it was the origination of legacy letters.
Bad fanfiction writing tropes just are what they are.
My mind cannot be changed, the F was launched in 2409 and needs a long service time as we have to last until the 2550s to have the J.
I never wanted to be the type to pick and choose what I accept, I've always thought less of people who have declared ENT isnt canon, DSC isnt canon, even Picard seasons 1 and 2 not being canon.
The slew of continuity errors, logic gaps and character assassinations just make it too hard to reconcile. The fact that this topic was necessary because stuff was explained in twitter posts and even then dont always line up.
I apologise for the rant and I do apologise for the negativity, I much prefer to spend my energy celebrating what I do like and just not paying any mind to what I do not.
Bad fanfiction writing tropes just are what they are.
My mind cannot be changed, the F was launched in 2409 and needs a long service time as we have to last until the 2550s to have the J.
I never wanted to be the type to pick and choose what I accept, I've always thought less of people who have declared ENT isnt canon, DSC isnt canon, even Picard seasons 1 and 2 not being canon.
The slew of continuity errors, logic gaps and character assassinations just make it too hard to reconcile. The fact that this topic was necessary because stuff was explained in twitter posts and even then dont always line up.
I apologise for the rant and I do apologise for the negativity, I much prefer to spend my energy celebrating what I do like and just not paying any mind to what I do not.
My idea was that Starfleet would take the time to figure out how to correct the systems failures in the USS Enterprise-F that forced her early retirement (and repair the damage done in battle). It will take some time now that Starfleet needs to rebuild a lot of starships and repair Spacedock. So in the interim, the USS Enterprise-G will fly the flag. By 2409, the USS Enterprise-F will be ready for recommissioning. The former Titan-A might be retired, given her old name back, or given a third name after seven years of service. This assumes the USS Titan-B was not launch in the interim. Also it brings into question that that Neo-Constitution-class starship had an original name before being rechristened the Titan.
If you decommission an Enterprise, then introduce another on screen, you can sell twice as many toys, of course!
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I didn't make the show. If you don't like it, it's... sort of weird you're here?
I can believe it in context.
The Galaxy-Class was generally portrayed to be almost over-engineered, it was an incredibly complex design that needed a top-notch crew to keep the thing from flying apart at the seams.
It's probably not so much "outdated" as it was just starting to get diminishing returns on keeping them up and running over just building a new ship.
We don't actually know that ALL the Galaxy-Class ships are either retired or considered to be obsolete. The Enterprise-D... Geordie's hot rod... wasn't really in the best of shape, but it was frankensteined together from parts and never intended to be taken into battle, whereas if there were Galaxy's still in service, they probably received some sort of refit/upgrade. The Ross-Class that we see is essentially a Galaxy Refit.
They could, but they don't really need to. Their economy is much different. I'm sure the US Air Force would PREFER to roll out new cutting edge planes every few years or so, but it's just not feasible given how much they cost.
On the other hand, it really shouldn't be all that big of a deal for Starfleet to build new ships.
Here's another of Matalas's questionable production choices. In order to appease some miniscule percentage of STO fans, Dave Blass chose the Ross class, an STO ship based on the Galaxy class but with 'Sovereignized modifications' as one of the new ships for season 2. But in-universe, I have no idea why a ship like this should exist. For one thing, it looks 90% like a Galaxy class starship already, to the point where if you saw one at a distance, you'd never be able to tell its not a Galaxy class. Also, why would Starfleet take an older design like the Galaxy class to use as a basis for the Sovereign, which looks nothing like the Galaxy class? Also, the Sovereign debuted in the 2370's, which means that the Ross class would have had to debut even before that. So why are so many Ross classes still in service in 2401 when the Galaxy class seemingly isn't?
I don't question why you're here, so you don't need to question why I'm here.
Fair. Just sort of hard to understand that if you don't... like Star Trek... you would be on a Star Trek forum. But, you do you. Nothing wrong with that.
Where exactly did you come to the conclusion that I don't like Star Trek based on what I wrote?
I think like all of us, @Dukhat feels there are decisions made by those in charge that we don't like. I've had plenty of discussions with him about Trek where we were on the opposite sides, but I've never got the impression he didn't like Star Trek.
Titan was like the "second best ship in Starfleet" title. They do something that saves the Federation. You have earned the "First best ship in Starfleet" title by renaming the starship to Enterprise. Titan will be handed over to the next new second best starship they can build.
This simply makes no sense.
If Titan was the second best name, why was it given to an underarmed what seems to be science ship?
That doesn't make sense. Titan-A did all the work. It should deserve the credit. If you want a new Enterprise, just build another one.
That was indeed pretty stupid and one of the final fangasm moments in the 3rd season, but I enjoyed the show for what it was. Honestly as far as that goes I would rate the Ro Laren episode as one of the best. Something kind of unexpected, but Michelle Forbes rules.
I’ve only made it through one of the three Picard seasons. Relies too much on nostalgia.
Oh yeah, that's definitely true, but I wasn't all that invested in TNG to begin with. I just found it entertaining, got all or most of the callbacks and references, and thought it was a much better ending for that crew than Nemesis. It did go overboard with the nostalgia angle, though.
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