It's a sequel to "The Cage," and a prequel to the rest of TOS.
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Haha. No.
I have been swayed by your eloquent and well reasoned argument.
At some point the more vocal detractors of PICARD season 3 are going to run their rather limited talking points into the ground and will need new material. They should want a Legacy series so they have ongoing content to hate on.
The same could be said if those who don't like SNW or Discovery.
Season 3 was mixed but I'd welcome Legacy so people who liked Season 3 get more of what they enjoy.
Nah. This is the internet. And we're talking about Star Trek. We're still arguing about James R. Kirk, after all.
Not just that, there are still people arguing about the "women on the bridge" line from "The Cage". That's the earliest possible conflict, and it still hasn't been resolved.
So they can skull fuck nostalgia one more time? No thanks. I'm already incredibly bored by CBS' Trek output.
"R_____ is my/his middle name." in the sense that the word defines them somehow.
"A woman on the bridge" - he meant to say "a woman (taking the male yeoman's place on) the bridge" = "somebody/anybody else in the dead man's place" - it came out wrong.
That doesn't work, because he turns around and tells Number One that she's 'different'.
As in, "I didn't mean you, of course..." - he'll explain later. He realized how it sounded, but didn't elaborate on what he meant to say.
Because he said what he meant to say. It was 1964. Which is the problem with trying to treat it all as one thing. There's sixty years and a lot of societal/technological change between "The Cage" and CBS Trek.
To me personally, it was much easier to ignore before CBS decided that Star Trek could, for some reason, only exist as prequels to TOS and we must keep going there for all time. If TOS could have just stayed in the real of "it happened, we'll make a fun reference every now and then, but you can generally ignore most of it", it doesn't really matter. Now that we DO need to keep going back there non-stop, it's much more an issue, and... yeah. Pike on SNW should be kind of a misogynistic douche, not the neutered Captain who spends most of his time cooking in his quarters while the Girl Squad solves the problems.
That should have been the working mantra for CBS regarding all of prior Trek.
The line wasn't in "The Menagerie", so I don't count it as canon. "The Cage" was never aired for decades, after all. But I wasn't trying to actually start the argument, I was just mentioning it existed!
I agree... probably with something of a different intent though.
When doing Discovery, CBS should have just gone the Kelvin route. Brand it as a reboot, it's not really connected to anything else, and go wild with whatever you want to do.
What CBS should've done was simply say, "we're making Star Trek" and allow fans to hash it out. Though we now live in the era of creators who think they to are stars and need to constantly be out there making statements that very few actually care about.
I think this statement says an awful lot more about you than it does about SNW.
It might have made this version of Pike more interesting. Not the misogyny, but being a bit more "gruff". As much as I love Anson Mount* as an actor, I just don't find him interesting, from what I've watched of Strange New Worlds. It kinda shocked me when I went back to rewatch the first episode of SNW, just how dull it was. It reminded me a lot of mid/late TNG. Which makes sense as many of Trek's current creators grew up on that branch of the franchise.
*In my head canon, I have Cullen Bohannon as an ancestor to Christopher Pike.
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