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Any science beyond our understanding can be considered magic etc.

Anyway, the point I was making is that musicals do not occur naturally in nature, except as a result of the natural process of evolution creating intelligent life which then creates Broadway. Anomalies do not make musicals, no matter how anomalous they are. There needs to be an intelligence or a mechanism at work.
 
Any science beyond our understanding can be considered magic etc.

Anyway, the point I was making is that musicals do not occur naturally in nature, except as a result of the natural process of evolution creating intelligent life which then creates Broadway. Anomalies do not make musicals, no matter how anomalous they are. There needs to be an intelligence or a mechanism at work.
How do anomalies make thoughts reality?
 
Anomalies don't, space, time and thought aren't the separate things we think they are, and if you've got the Mozart of warp drives, or a navigator with a high ESP rating and a brain injury, or someone pumped full of kironide, you end up with a sort of godlike entity on your hands. Especially if they fully ascend into an energy being.

Basically it's mind over matter, due to scientific processes we don't understand and have never been adequately explained. The important part being 'mind'.

That's why I would've been happier if the musical had turned out to be a shared dream, because at least then it would've all been in their heads.
 
That's why I would've been happier if the musical had turned out to be a shared dream, because at least then it would've all been in their heads.
Which makes even less sense.

PICARD: I had to get everyone's attention. It was the quickest way. This is the Captain. This is not a drill. It seems that in this place, the world of the physical universe and the world of ideas is somehow intermixed. What we think

[Bridge]

PICARD [OC]: Also becomes a reality. We must, therefore, I repeat, must begin controlling our thoughts.


How do thoughts become reality? The Traveler was unconscious throughout parts of this. So the ability is tied to the place. So, regardless of logic in our world, Trek affirms anomalies causing oddities as part of their nature.
 
At no point did I ever believe that Chapel and Spock were more then work acquaintances, with Chapel having an unrequited crush on Spock. Spock and Chapel sure as hell don't have a multi year close relationship in TOS.

That's your interpretation.

To be fair, it's a pretty valid interpretation, since I always felt the same way. Retconning them to have had an actual relationship pre-TOS is what it is, I guess, but I don't really feel that that was the original intent, just like I never felt that the whole Spock/Uhura thing in the Abrams films was the original intent of whatever small scene in TOS they took out of context to assume there was some spark between those two characters.
 
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. At no point did I ever believe that Chapel and Spock were more then work acquaintances, with Chapel having an unrequited crush on Spock. Spock and Chapel sure as hell don't have a multi year close relationship in TOS.

Confessing "love" under influence means nothing anyway, in that same episode Sulu tried to sword fight people shirtless but that doesn't mean he secretly always wanted to quit Star Fleet to be a Musketeer, and I doubt Lt. Riley actually wanted to commit suicide while singing his way to death in the engine room.
There is a lot of real estate between work acquaintances and dating/sexual relationship. Chapel in TOS felt friendly enough with Spock to bring him soup when she thought he was ill. "Work acquaintances" just sign the office get well card and go back to work.

That's the dumbest and most ill-informed read of "The Naked Time" I've seen in a while. Clueless doesn't even begin to cover it
 
To be fair, it's a pretty valid interpretation, since I always felt the same way. Retconning them to have had an actual relationship pre-TOS is what it is, I guess, but I don't really feel that that was the original intent, just like I never felt that the whole Spock/Uhura thing in the Abrams films was the original intent of whatever small scene in TOS they took out of context to assume there was some spark between those two characters.
Rule of cool tends to come into play with prequels, even if new writers aren't involved and it's the same creator who wrote the original works--for example I'm pretty sure despite how much he might now claim otherwise that George Lucas never originally intended for Darth Vader to be C-3PO's builder or for R2-D2 to be Vader's droid copilot in the Clone Wars.
 
To be fair, it's a pretty valid interpretation, since I always felt the same way. Retconning them to have had an actual relationship pre-TOS is what it is, I guess, but I don't really feel that that was the original intent, just like I never felt that the whole Spock/Uhura thing in the Abrams films was the original intent of whatever small scene in TOS they took out of context to assume there was some spark between those two characters.
I don't really feel like there was much more than a workplace crush in all honesty. McCoy and Nancy Crater were far more demonstrative of two people with a past than Spock and Chapel, and we never actually got to know Crater.

But all the same, I'm not too bothered about what's going on with them in this show. The relationship has to end to maintain continuity, and that's the only game I'm watching.

Saying that, a flash-forward to a time when they are both much older/wiser and end up together isn't something that I wouldn't actually be annoyed with.
 
Well, that was only one scene in one bad movie. The Abrams films were positively littered with Spock/Uhura cringeworthyness.
It's an alternate timeline! There was an alternate ENT timeline where Archer and T'Pol ended up together, which (probably) didn't happen in the main universe. The point of alternate realities is that things are different.
 
It's an alternate timeline! There was an alternate ENT timeline where Archer and T'Pol ended up together, which (probably) didn't happen in the main universe. The point of alternate realities is that things are different.

Uh, yeah, I know it’s an alternate timeline. But the idea for the Spock/Uhura relationship didn’t just come out of nowhere. It was based on a scene in an episode of TOS where Uhura was singing and what looked to be light flirting with Spock. That was taken out of context to form the basis of what we see in the Abrams films. Nowhere else in TOS is it seen or even implied that Uhura and Spock had any romantic interest in each other.
 
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