She gets a bad rap, but I really liked Pulaski too. Her relationship with Worf was great, and her relationship with Data softened as the season went on too.
Moments on TNG that make you cringe.
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3 Reasons Why Pulaski > Crusher
1. She demonstrated character growth, regarding her attitude toward Data.
2. She had sass.
3. She didn't have sex with a lamp.
"Dinna light that candle!"
But DID fuck Riker's dad.
I'd say Bev had more taste.
Besides, she did technically fuck the apple rather than the tree.
Based on "Insurrection" where allegedly all those various attraction issues aren't important anymore, in a scene almost as bizarre as the contextless-on-screen oath of celibacy from TMP, one has to wonder what the qualifications might be, or everyone's just humping everyone because nobody has a type anymore.
Or maybe this scene is worse?
There were two sets of triplets I was more into, but it's all good.
^^this
Dr Pulaski's fortitude seems rather on point for a doctor in outer space dealing with multiple sentient species.
While it's a bit vague as "the Klingon tea ceremony", it's one of the best scenes in the episode or season or series. Naturally, it's only one ceremony based on thanking one for defending another's honor? Using spiked poison teas, no less? It's honestly just a minor nitpick because her addressing the situation was forward-thinking and pretty awesome and I've always adored the scene for its multifaceted complexity and underlying mystery that's hinted at, without demystifying it:
Dr Crusher had some terrific moments in the series, but nothing along these lines came up, unfortunately.
As an expert on older men (
)... Kyle Riker looks great. Very attractive. But... his personality? No, thanks (in my opinion, anyway, others may think differently). I can see why Pulaski thought he was intriguing tho. They both have a snarky way of saying and doing things. (I like Pulaski MUCH better than Kyle Riker personality-wise tho.)
)... Kyle Riker looks great. Very attractive. But... his personality? No, thanks (in my opinion, anyway, others may think differently). I can see why Pulaski thought he was intriguing tho. They both have a snarky way of saying and doing things. (I like Pulaski MUCH better than Kyle Riker personality-wise tho.)
Large portions of the third through seventh seasons make me really cringe. A few moments and episodes in seasons one and two make me cringle slightly. Overall, there was a spirit and tone to those first two seasons that was lost in favor of a dull, pretentious, adventure-less tone that ultimately makes it difficult to watch a lot of episodes. I find the characters far more interesting in those first two seasons, especially Riker, who essentially died after BoBW.
All the more reason why he should have taken his own command. We saw a great captain spread his wings in BoBW... he should have taken flight.
Riker's best decision as captain in that episode?
He ordered them to get away from the Borg cube and let it blow up on its own instead of keeping it around for study.
Data made a valid point about what could be gained from studying it, but considering how quickly and easily the Borg adapt, Riker made the right call. There comes a point when a clear and present danger is better off eliminated instead of being studied. You might be able to get useful information to save people down the road, but risk the certainty of saving people right now is just too reckless a thing to do.
He ordered them to get away from the Borg cube and let it blow up on its own instead of keeping it around for study.
Data made a valid point about what could be gained from studying it, but considering how quickly and easily the Borg adapt, Riker made the right call. There comes a point when a clear and present danger is better off eliminated instead of being studied. You might be able to get useful information to save people down the road, but risk the certainty of saving people right now is just too reckless a thing to do.
Yes, this. I adore the tone of the first two seasons. It's why they're my favorites. Especially first and second season Jean-Luc. I soooo disagree with Sir Patrick's insistence to give him more affairs and fights from season 3 onwards. (Nothing new here, I disagree with him a LOT when it comes to Jean-Luc, it's the one subject we'd probably seriously fight about, lol).
And the whole Riker thing is so unfortunate, too. After the first two seasons they seem to have truly realized that Data was their most popular character, so, they slowly turned TNG into the Picard & Data Show, with Riker getting somewhat sidelined in the process, at least compared to the way he was in the spotlight earlier on the show.
As much as I love Data, some scenes in those earlier seasons seem a little oversimplified and obvious. His innocence and stringent programming are to such a point that you are led to wonder how he carries out orders. Now, in the age of AI? I feel the strongest I ever have about this because even AI can detect colloquialisms and irony better than Data in S1 and S2.
you can get chatgpt and grok to straight up talk in slang or act like your best friend, get excited, tell jokes, its kind of hilarious.
but - so could Data, when he was impersonating a comedian, or playing Sherlock Holmes, on the holodeck.....
Yes, in the same way that Bania from Seinfeld rode on Jerry's coattails as a comedian.
I think Lore helps explain Data when he appears. Data was deliberately restricted so that he's less unnerving as a human and will grow into a better person.
^ That's a good explanation... the reality of it was that in 1987, we weren't far past the age of TRS-80's and mainframes that take up half a room and had 1% of the storage capacity of your phone. Given how limited those machines were, Data seemed impossibly futuristic. Now, our AI's make him seem antiquated.
As an aside, Data has 100 petabytes of storage, which seems huge... but we've gone from kilobytes to terabytes in just a few decades; we should reach the petabyte threshold by 2040, maybe 2045.
As an aside, Data has 100 petabytes of storage, which seems huge... but we've gone from kilobytes to terabytes in just a few decades; we should reach the petabyte threshold by 2040, maybe 2045.
i liked pulaski too, and think it was a missed opportunity not to have her show up in Picard, *because* of her relationship with data
Age aside, I doubt Diana Muldaur would have wanted to go back as it was clear she was never part of “the gang”. From what I’ve heard, she wasn’t made to feel welcome aside from by Michael Dorn and maybe a couple others. Marina Sirtis still bitches about her all these years later. Although the list of things Sirtis doesn’t bitch about is not long.
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