Is that the "special episode" ep.4 is supposed to be?
William Shatner Confirms Talks for Star Trek Return at 93 Years Old
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Is that the "special episode" ep.4 is supposed to be?
It would be interesting to see Lockwood and Shatner in whatever this thing is.
Unification itself is not canon. The idea that Section 31 retrieved Kirk's corpse and worked to resurrect him is, as that was established in Picard S3. Time Agent Yor from the Kelvin Timeline is canon, since we saw him on Disco. That's it.
You have nothing to feel sorry for. I'm bummed, since I think having Kirk in the next Kelvin film (if there is one) would be awesome and really kill two birds with one stone. I think it makes a lot of sense, but I'm inclined to agree with you, it would simply take way too long. Paramount has wasted too much time and the window is closing too fast. I think they were very very foolish to wait so long for the next Kelvin film simply because their last film, ST Beyond, didn't perform up to expectations despite it being very well received by both critics and audiences.
Star Trek Temporal Wars: The Last Starfleet Officer (in which Future Guy is revealed to be an evil Peter Kirk, James Kirk's nephew)
Peter Kirk: [on seeing James Kirk standing in front of the Temporal army] I want every gun we have to fire on that man. Do it.
[guns begin to fire on Kirk]
Peter Kirk: More! More!
(Kirk survives, so Peter rushes out to confront him personally)
Peter Kirk: Did you come back to say you forgive me? To save my soul?
James Kirk: No. I failed you, Peter. I'm sorry.
Peter Kirk: I'm sure you are! The Federation is dead, the Temporal war is over, and when I kill you, I will have killed the last Starfleet officer!
James Kirk: Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong. The Federation is reborn today. The war is just beginning. And I will not be the last officer.
Peter Kirk: [on seeing James Kirk standing in front of the Temporal army] I want every gun we have to fire on that man. Do it.
[guns begin to fire on Kirk]
Peter Kirk: More! More!
(Kirk survives, so Peter rushes out to confront him personally)
Peter Kirk: Did you come back to say you forgive me? To save my soul?
James Kirk: No. I failed you, Peter. I'm sorry.
Peter Kirk: I'm sure you are! The Federation is dead, the Temporal war is over, and when I kill you, I will have killed the last Starfleet officer!
James Kirk: Amazing. Every word of what you just said was wrong. The Federation is reborn today. The war is just beginning. And I will not be the last officer.
That's cool. And if Shatner is unable to do it, they could cast Tim Allen to play him.
They actually had a New Voyages short story where Shatner, Nimoy, and Kelly were beamed aboard the Enterprise of a parallel universe and had to actually act out their roles.
I got it in a box somewhere, I think.
They are both canon. Right now the only thing we know that isn't canon is Discovery.
Well I guess TAS as well.
Is Disco not Canon?They are both canon. Right now the only thing we know that isn't canon is Discovery.
Discovery is canon.
Given Shatner's current age, I would expect that any appearance would be a cameo.
Which is why we'll never see him play Kirk again.
I'm sure Shatner could team up with some AI company, have the AI bot play Kirk, and put his name on it. Then he'll say he's pioneering the use of AI to assist actors or something. The man's a salesman and a marketer as well as an entertainer and has shown over his long life to be able to reinvent himself and profit from a marketable opportunity.
Disco is canon and the people who insist otherwise are just edgelords looking for attention or people who think they are funny trying to be humorous.
They could do all that without Shatner.
Of course, Discovery is canon. It was an official CBS/Paramount production shown on screen, which is how the current IP holders view what is canon.
However, some fans view it as not being in the same continuity as Roddenberry & Berman Trek. That's different.
It's canon until the owning corporation decides it's not (for now Discovery is canon). But don't get too cocky. I remember saying similarly over a decade ago that people who said the Ewok movies and 2003 Clone Wars cartoon weren't canon were just edgelords etc. A change of ownership later, and they were the ones who were right...
The Ewok movies never were canon, while the 2003 Clone Wars had a rather nebulous status ever since the 2008 series began anyway before the Disney buyout made it definitively not canon.
So Young Indiana Jones isn't and never was canon too right?
