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William Shatner Confirms Talks for Star Trek Return at 93 Years Old

Yup, exactly this. I've got every draft of Generations in my collection, and the overall shape of the script really doesn't change from draft to draft. Individual scenes changed slightly, dialogue always changed, and the fate of Lursa & B'Etor dramatically changed, but the large brushstrokes were locked in.

All Good Things had more adjustments to its story structure in the two-ish months it was being written.
I ran across a couple of Generations scripts while straightening my library. Forgot I even had them.
 
I just had a crazy idea - what if it isn't Kirk who appears, but Shatner?

Picture this: Shatner the actor goes up in space, like he actually did, and somehow accidentally winds up in the Star Trek universe. They think he's Kirk, but he's not, and he gets to be involved in a mission, perhaps pretending to be Kirk to fool someone, before they send him back (mind-wiped or not) quick enough that he's not missed.
 
I just had a crazy idea - what if it isn't Kirk who appears, but Shatner?

Picture this: Shatner the actor goes up in space, like he actually did, and somehow accidentally winds up in the Star Trek universe. They think he's Kirk, but he's not, and he gets to be involved in a mission, perhaps pretending to be Kirk to fool someone, before they send him back (mind-wiped or not) quick enough that he's not missed.

Perfect. Lol.
 
I just had a crazy idea - what if it isn't Kirk who appears, but Shatner?

Picture this: Shatner the actor goes up in space, like he actually did, and somehow accidentally winds up in the Star Trek universe. They think he's Kirk, but he's not, and he gets to be involved in a mission, perhaps pretending to be Kirk to fool someone, before they send him back (mind-wiped or not) quick enough that he's not missed.

No, that’s not going to happen.

But you know what will happen if they bring Shatner back? He will just play an idealized version of himself, despite supposedly playing Kirk.
 
No, that’s not going to happen.

But you know what will happen if they bring Shatner back? He will just play an idealized version of himself, despite supposedly playing Kirk.
He's been doing that since Star Trek 5. Lol


That would be hilarious if trek goes Galaxy quest for his last appearance. Almost fitting since the Galaxy quest plot was lifted from Star Trek fanfic LOL.

It also would kind of make sense to not have it fit into any show, and just use generic Starfleet characters. They can't overshadow him or disappoint fans with the interactions if we don't even know them.

Lots of interesting thoughts anyways.
 
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This is true. But I don't think Shatner wants that..he has often said he doesn't want a bit part. Unless he has changed his mind I don't see how a two hour movie with a 90+ year old Kirk would NOT be disappointing. I guess they could have Shatner sitting in a captains chair the entire time or consulting a Captain whilst sitting nearby. But I really don't want to see that. The time to do something like this was 15 years ago. Shatner was able to walk much better back than. He has really slowed the last few years.

Their is a difference between a bit part and serious lead. He can have a juicy important role and not be the lead. In fact I their are some stories were important characters don't have as much screentime as you think. Like with Hannibal Lector in Silence of the Lambs" and I think Beeetlejuce only was in 17 minutes of the first movie or something like that.
 
Their is a difference between a bit part and serious lead. He can have a juicy important role and not be the lead. In fact I their are some stories were important characters don't have as much screentime as you think. Like with Hannibal Lector in Silence of the Lambs" and I think Beeetlejuce only was in 17 minutes of the first movie or something like that.
wasn't Darth Vader only on screen for something like 12 minutes in Star Wars too
 
As Kirk's body is in stasis of some sort in Picard, they could find a way to revive him for 'reasons', but his body continued to age physically while they found a way to revive him.

I mean, its rubbish I know but it sort of would work.
 
As Kirk's body is in stasis of some sort in Picard, they could find a way to revive him for 'reasons', but his body continued to age physically while they found a way to revive him.

I mean, its rubbish I know but it sort of would work.
The Genesis II device was in proximity to his chamber and the original was effectively the reason for Spock's rapid aging, so there's one idea.

It's unlikely, but I'd prefer the events of Unification to be the reason he's out there. He took time out after his trip to the Kelvin timeline and ended up where he was needed, eventually. Be it the 23rd, 25th or 32nd century.

That's if this is going to be the proper Kirk, of course. He could be future Paul Wesley Kirk from another alternate timeline, or evil Mirror Kirk or holo-Kirk.
 
The Genesis II device was in proximity to his chamber and the original was effectively the reason for Spock's rapid aging, so there's one idea.

It's unlikely, but I'd prefer the events of Unification to be the reason he's out there. He took time out after his trip to the Kelvin timeline and ended up where he was needed, eventually. Be it the 23rd, 25th or 32nd century.

That's if this is going to be the proper Kirk, of course. He could be future Paul Wesley Kirk from another alternate timeline, or evil Mirror Kirk or holo-Kirk.
I'm convinced that the Picard 3 easter eggs ARE the mechanism for the Unification short.

If its not proper Kirk, then there is no point.
 
Yes, in retrospect it’s quite obvious that’s why the Easter eggs are there. Which calls into question the canonical status of Unification as opposed to it just being a ‘fan film.’

Yeah, exactly. So is Unification canonical or not? If so, then the last we know of Kirk-Prime is that he was last seen in the Kelvin timeline shortly before Spock-Prime died.

If that's considered canonical, then what happened afterwards. As I said earlier, I think that incorporating Shatner into the next Kelvin film would be great, but that is extremely unlikely to happen as you alluded to, considering the pace and direction Paramount is going with its ST films.

I guess it would be quicker and easier for Kirk to show up on one or two ST TV shows. The problem with that is that there is no current show taking place around the time of Picard, right? That said, weren't there some rumors or something from Patrick Stewart that there was a Picard film being discussed. Maybe Kirk and Picard teaming up one more time?

That would mean that after visiting Spock, Kirk returned to the Prime Timeline, of course.
 
I hate the Kelvin movies, but thats the only way to keep Kirk grounded in his TOS element, with characters (if not actors) he has personal experiences with, and narratively fits where be ends up in the short. I begrudgingly agree, that would be the best way of proceeding - but it would take way too long. SNW is the next logical choice, unless they can craft something unique around Shatner, unattached to any other projects. SNW could have him interact with Uhura, and maybe Scotty, and to a lesser extent Chapel and M'Benga (we could get a funny khan joke out of it too), but I think I'd prefer to see him interact with Urban and Quinto. Never thought I'd hear myself saying that one.....and the realization that I may have been a fan of those movies if they had featured both Shatner and Nimoy from the beginning.
 
Maybe he becomes a Traveller. Or perhaps Mitchell was revived and purged of his delusions of godhood to be one.

Whatever he is, I am sure he has leveled out and in search of some type of humanity or redemption, or he woudln't have involved himselves with the petty life and death of Jim Kirk.

What a hilarious and snarky encounter, Gary and Q would have been. LOL!!!
 
If that's considered canonical, then what happened afterwards. As I said earlier, I think that incorporating Shatner into the next Kelvin film would be great, but that is extremely unlikely to happen as you alluded to, considering the pace and direction Paramount is going with its ST films.

I have no illusions that Shatner will be dead by the time Paramount makes another Star Trek film. Sorry to sound morbid, but it is what it is. And honestly, what else could he possibly be involved with? The only thing that springs to mind is a cameo in SNW, and if it's in season 3 (unlikely), we'll know about it soon. And if it's in season 4 currently in production (more likely), then I also think we'd be hearing a lot about that right now if that's what's happening.

But really, I just don't see him coming back, ever.
 
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