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The James Bond Film Discussion Thread (With Bonus Lazenby!)
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Most similarly to Bond, Universal made The Bourne Legacy for the cinema and Treadstone for tv, neither of which really set the world alight.
Hmm... Have to think about that one. Incorporate other 00's in the mix, somehow?
I always thought Robert James-Collier would make an excellent Bond.
It's like Enterprises. You can't just make three shows about different ships but doing the same job with different casts but everyone has pretty equivalent roles. You need to make them do different things. This one is a space station. This one is set in the 60's. This one is lost on the other side of the galaxy (but still winds up doing pretty Enterprise-y things anyway.)
The company we are talking about is Amazon and the series we are talking about is the Bond series, every movie of which is a blockbuster, if it weren't for a series of 25 movies and Amazon being behind it, I would say it wouldn't work. Also, what is important for Amazon is not how much it makes at the cinema, but how many it is 'watched' on Prime Video.
Though the various CSI shows seemed to do all right
That was never me. I’ll admit Eon has never had a perfect track record since they do have titles like TMWTGG, AVTAK, DAD, and QOS, but I always admired that they did things their way.
You could maybe squeeze a couple of other 00s out I guess. Maybe one could be [Roger Moore] A woman?[/Roger Moore] but beyond that there isn't much mileage. I still think there's very little you can do with Moneypenny or Q, and nobody wants a Tanner limited series. Of all the side characters M would be the best choice for something long-term given he must have quite the history before he became head of MI6
Interesting that the one movie franchise that could have easily branched out, hasn't. I mean we already know a Mission Impossible tv show can work, yet they've stuck with just the films which is interesting given you could come up with multiple IMF teams. Maybe they just realise less is more?
I think Amazon is already planning a few 00 spin-off movies and TV series. The other characters will definitely make TV series. They could even make a Felix Leiter spin-off TV series based on CSI.
Probably far enough to at least stay in business for a good 60 years, whereas with the Salkinds they could only rip off so many people before it came to bite them in the ass on in the 90s.
Does make me think, over in Star Trek when Alex Kurtzman
In that sense, Harry Saltzman was probably closer to the Salkinds in that his overextended business dealings in the late '60s and early '70s forced him to sell his 50% stake in Danjaq to United Artists so he could pay off his debts. Cubby Broccoli — and subsequently Michael & Barbara — seemed to be much better about managing things. And while they're partially to blame for the slower pace of Bond films since they took over, a big portion of that has to be laid at the feet of MGM/UA, whose own financial problems contributed to the six-year gap between Licence to Kill and GoldenEye, as well as the four-year gap between Quantum of Solace and Skyfall.
Oh yeah, 20 years from now people are going to be waxing poetic about the Kurtzman era of Star Trek and the Kathleen Kennedy era of Star Wars the same way folks here have come around on Enterprise and the SW Prequel Trilogy after a generation of non-stop kvetching.
We see that today over Rick Berman.
Hmmmm. That will be quite a thing to see.
Berman oversaw what was arguably the most successful era of Star Trek ever. (Not my favorite, mind you.)
They knocked out a film every two years during the Brosnan era. Not bad by anyone's standard. (I guess it was three between The World is Not Enough and Die Another Day.) There was a glorious period where every Christmas we either got a Star Trek or a Bond.
I'll take the Kennedy era (Rogue One, Andor, Mandalorian, Rebels, Bad Batch) over ANY of the prequels and over a lot of Clone Wars.Oh yeah, 20 years from now people are going to be waxing poetic about the Kurtzman era of Star Trek and the Kathleen Kennedy era of Star Wars the same way folks here have come around on Enterprise and the SW Prequel Trilogy after a generation of non-stop kvetching.
Reading that the deal won't officially go through until May so there's unlikely to be any kind of announcement until after then. Given Barbara and Michael are still technically involved I wonder again whether they'll have any say in the future direction or whether they'll be strictly silent partners banking a cheque? I suspect the latter, but hope for the former, I'm not expecting a veto per se but maybe they'd be able to stop Amazon doing anything monumentally stupid? Or at least advise against it. Faint hope I know.
Hey maybe in 5 years time we'll all be laughing about how foolish we were when Amazon pump out two top draw Bond films starring Aidan Turner
What would people's redlines be? What would stop you seeing he next Bond film? Sadly I think they'd really have to not only drop the ball but drop the ball down a borehole in the arctic for me to categorically not give the next film a chance. Maybe if they hire The Rock to be Bond and it's directed by Zack Snyder?
I figure if they pump out a load of TV series; M, Q, Moneypenny, 003, a Loki style series where Blofeld becomes an antihero*...I suppose we don't have to watch them, but then I don't have to watch all the SW shows but I do.
* Just imagining if we'd had streaming in the 80s, would we have seen a show featuring the continuing adventures of Jaws and Dolly? Or an anthology show where each week various people fall foul of/or are helped by Geoffrey Holder's Baron Samedi?
Hey maybe in 5 years time we'll all be laughing about how foolish we were when Amazon pump out two top draw Bond films starring Aidan Turner
What would people's redlines be? What would stop you seeing he next Bond film? Sadly I think they'd really have to not only drop the ball but drop the ball down a borehole in the arctic for me to categorically not give the next film a chance. Maybe if they hire The Rock to be Bond and it's directed by Zack Snyder?
I figure if they pump out a load of TV series; M, Q, Moneypenny, 003, a Loki style series where Blofeld becomes an antihero*...I suppose we don't have to watch them, but then I don't have to watch all the SW shows but I do.
* Just imagining if we'd had streaming in the 80s, would we have seen a show featuring the continuing adventures of Jaws and Dolly? Or an anthology show where each week various people fall foul of/or are helped by Geoffrey Holder's Baron Samedi?
The rate of the Craig films was as good as it could get given the circumstances Eon found themselves in, and only got stretched out for three reasons: MGM’s financial troubles in 2010 that delayed a third film by four years, the Danny Boyle creative clash, and then finally COVID. If things had gone smoother without those initial delays, we probably would have seen a run more like this:
CR 2006
QOS 2008
SF 2010
SP 2012
NTTD 2015
After Craig leaves, we might have seen Eon deliver Bond 26 in 2019 with a new star. COVID would probably delay Bond 27 to 2022, but that coincides with the 60th anniversary so happy accident. And of course in this alternate timeline since MGM wasn’t having money issues there was no need to sell to Amazon, and we may have gotten Bond 28 last Fall, or this upcoming Fall.
But here we are. The best I can hope out of this new Amazon era besides the films being good is that being strapped with so much cash means we’ll see a more consistent rate of releases down the line. Probably every two years starting in 2027. The days of MGM’s financial woes and having to be co-productions with Sony and Universal are far behind us.
CR 2006
QOS 2008
SF 2010
SP 2012
NTTD 2015
After Craig leaves, we might have seen Eon deliver Bond 26 in 2019 with a new star. COVID would probably delay Bond 27 to 2022, but that coincides with the 60th anniversary so happy accident. And of course in this alternate timeline since MGM wasn’t having money issues there was no need to sell to Amazon, and we may have gotten Bond 28 last Fall, or this upcoming Fall.
But here we are. The best I can hope out of this new Amazon era besides the films being good is that being strapped with so much cash means we’ll see a more consistent rate of releases down the line. Probably every two years starting in 2027. The days of MGM’s financial woes and having to be co-productions with Sony and Universal are far behind us.
James Bond AND Star Wars in the same week! (Go look up KK news.)
EDIT: What's going on with Star Trek right now? Doctor Who?
Oh wow, didn’t know of the Kathleen Kennedy thing.
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Congrats Fandom Menace, it only took you 13 years to succeed! :P
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