The Trek Universe was established as product of its time. It should not remain in the '60s. Nor should it remain in the '80s. For it to be relevant it has to always be on the cutting edge, not restrained by puritanical nonsense from decades ago.
The F**k word in Star Trek
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I work in a garage and every other word out of a technicians mouth is a swear word.
Customers come in and use swear words.
I use swear words in conversation with the customers.
When I was a delivery driver, dropping medicine and equipment at hospitals and nursing homes, the staff had some of the foulest mouths and gallows humor.
Swear words can be used as a way to lighten potentially bad/upsetting situations.
Customers come in and use swear words.
I use swear words in conversation with the customers.
When I was a delivery driver, dropping medicine and equipment at hospitals and nursing homes, the staff had some of the foulest mouths and gallows humor.
Swear words can be used as a way to lighten potentially bad/upsetting situations.
Seems like this has turned into the old "Star Trek is like a historical setting" vs "Star Trek should always look and sound like it was invented five minutes ago" debate.
Some people think the style of speech helps make it feel like another time, other people just want it to be modern, and no one is going to change anyone else's mind. Maybe we should've had a poll.
Some people think the style of speech helps make it feel like another time, other people just want it to be modern, and no one is going to change anyone else's mind. Maybe we should've had a poll.
McCoy will say it if there's a fourth Kelvin movie.
Maybe the new Scotty in SNW will?
Scotty being in season 3 of SNW gives me hope.
Can we have a poll to see if we should have a poll?
The ironic thing with that, is that the word was very likely selected to get around censors as it's milder sounding while still meaning the same thing, while the other word comes across much more strongly.
Funny thing is, other sci-fi series used words like 'smeg', 'frell' and 'frak' to get around the restrictions for broadcast TV (and Firefly has them swearing in Chinese), so Trek's characters could've been cursing like sailors all along if the writers had wanted them to.
"Sheer fucking hubris" does kinda encapsulate a lot of the Kurtzman era...
Good counter-framing...
In most cases, the English language has a far greater variety of vocabulary than other languages. Yet we have a general paucity of swear words. There're only really two that you can get away with saying socially that you can't on network TV... shit and fuck. Everything else is more akin to racial, religious, or gender based epithets.
Shit kinda breaks the immersion if the characters don't react with a WTF to it being used. But fuck is just too fucking contemporary.
Fuck has been arrested in the English language to the 14th to 16th century.
How contemporary is that? Y'all from the 16th century?
www.medievalists.net
How contemporary is that? Y'all from the 16th century?
The earliest use of the F-word - Medievalists.net
An English historian has come across the word 'fuck' in a court case dating to the year 1310, making it the earliest known reference to the swear word.
www.medievalists.net
Would you believe the 17th?Fuck has been arrested in the English language to the 14th to 16th century.
How contemporary is that? Y'all from the 16th century?
The earliest use of the F-word - Medievalists.net
An English historian has come across the word 'fuck' in a court case dating to the year 1310, making it the earliest known reference to the swear word.
I read somewhere that City on the Edge... was the first time "hell" was used as swearing (rather than a place) was used on the air on network TV.
In fiction prior to about 1910 they almost never swore. But that's not because there was no swearing, they just didn't print it.
In my workplace the culture was no swearing. I can't even remember a single time someone working there swore.
Swearing makes someone look scared or angry, less than professional. That might be what fits in for some characters and situation, but seems out of place for something like Starfleet where they're keeping cool most of the time.
"Fuck" is a lot stronger swear word.
Nobody said yeet in the 1990's. I still haven't got a fucking clue what it means. Maybe "fuck" is the yeet of 2499, or whenever Picard is set.
Everyone is different and has different tastes. I don't think we're going to convince each other of anything. For me, I still think it is very out of place. But, then again, I don't use "fuck" in professional settings and very, very rarely hear it used in such environments. Contrary to popular perception, not everyone is going around dropping f-bombs constantly and there are many contexts in which it is still frowned upon.
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