The James Bond Film Discussion Thread (With Bonus Lazenby!)

[Starkers]

They also exploded Dr. Kananga in LALD, and Mr. Kidd gets set on fire in DAF. What we see when Killifer gets eaten by the shark isn't really any more graphic than when Helga Brandt got fed to the piranhas in YOLT or Stromberg's secretary got fed to a shark in TSWLM. That said, the level/quantity of violence and (perhaps) the cold-bloodedness of it was enough to make LTK the first PG-13 rated Bond film, but maybe apart from Dario getting fed to the grinder, it wasn't anything we hadn't seen before.

My understanding was that Krest in the decompression tank was the main point of contention. Kananga blowing up in LaLD was bloodless, Krest was far more graphic. I'd argue Mr Kidd being set on fire in DAF is far less brutal than Sanchez's end, and frankly is almost played for laughs so I do think the cold bloodedness of it was a factor, even before you factor in Felix getting his leg chomped off and Della's presumed rape and murder Admittedly they happen off screen for the most part but are still harder to deal with than a lot of stuff that happens in Bond.

As an aside it always amuses me how similar Anthony Zerbe's deaths were in LTK and Star Trek: Insurrection

 

[the G-man]

Bless your heart!

Newton was perfect for what he was playing — a cheesy televangelist at a time when American airwaves were crawling with them, and a bunch of them (Bakker and Swaggart especially) had become mired in scandal around the same time LTK was in production.

I'm sorry, but Wayne Newton is a guy who gets cast on the Love Boat, not in a James Bond movie. He's right up (down?) there with Jimmy "Sausage" Dean in terms of casting.

 

[Starkers]

Thing is I never had any concept of who Wayne Newton was (and to be honest I never had any particular beef with Jimmy Dean either for the same reason) so I always thought it was a fun character.

 

[Captaindemotion]

I'm sorry, but Wayne Newton is a guy who gets cast on the Love Boat, not in a James Bond movie. He's right up (down?) there with Jimmy "Sausage" Dean in terms of casting.

There has long been a tradition of actors from eg U.K. sitcoms, soap operas or other tv shows in Bond films. Newton probably stands out to you as he’s an American equivalent but just like you wouldn’t be phased by eg Geoffrey Palmer* in Tomorrow Never Dies, Newton doesn’t really perturb anyone on this side of the pond.

*Palmer was a very fine actor but often played stiff upper lip Brits, slightly confused by the world around them; was an admiral in TND, opposite his sitcom costar Judi Dench.

 

[Rowdy Roddy McDowall]

Personally, I've never cared for Licence to Kill because it feels more like a generic 80's cartel revenge movie with the serial numbers sanded off and Bond plugged in. I much prefer The Living Daylights.

Relaxing my grip on the flamethrower and scissors, and glad it's not just me.

Nah, The Living Daylights is a top 5 Bond film for me and Licence to Kill is top ten.


Kilifer is eaten by sharks, Krest is exploded, Dario chewed to pieces by a grinder and Sanchez burned alive!

Just as well I withhold what happens to Connery, Dalton and Craig in my bloodthirsty ripoff.

I'm sorry, but Wayne Newton is a guy who gets cast on the Love Boat, not in a James Bond movie.

I'll watch him on Jack Benny any day, but you'll notice Benny never did the Blofeld.

Thing is I never had any concept of who Wayne Newton was (and to be honest I never had any particular beef with Jimmy Dean either for the same reason) so I always thought it was a fun character.

No complaints from me. Not every actor has the chutzpah to fire corpses.

 

[cooleddie74]

Hugo Drax gets a cyanide-tipped metal dart shot into his heart and while he's gasping for breaths he's shoved into an airlock and ejected into space. No blood, but a damned awful way to die on both counts.

 

[Starkers]

There has long been a tradition of actors from eg U.K. sitcoms, soap operas or other tv shows in Bond films. Newton probably stands out to you as he’s an American equivalent but just like you wouldn’t be phased by eg Geoffrey Palmer* in Tomorrow Never Dies, Newton doesn’t really perturb anyone on this side of the pond.

*Palmer was a very fine actor but often played stiff upper lip Brits, slightly confused by the world around them; was an admiral in TND, opposite his sitcom costar Judi Dench.

Yeah it also reminds me of Dr Who when people like Catherine Tate or Bradley Walsh get cast and Americans don't have the same baggage a lot of Bits do.

 

[Captaindemotion]

Yeah it also reminds me of Dr Who when people like Catherine Tate or Bradley Walsh get cast and Americans don't have the same baggage a lot of Bits do.

I assume some of the cast in DAF were in the same vein as Newton?

 

[Set Harth]

The worst thing about Drax is the dudes who look like Drax in real life.

 

[jaime]

There has long been a tradition of actors from eg U.K. sitcoms, soap operas or other tv shows in Bond films. Newton probably stands out to you as he’s an American equivalent but just like you wouldn’t be phased by eg Geoffrey Palmer* in Tomorrow Never Dies, Newton doesn’t really perturb anyone on this side of the pond.

*Palmer was a very fine actor but often played stiff upper lip Brits, slightly confused by the world around them; was an admiral in TND, opposite his sitcom costar Judi Dench.

Palmer and Dench could have been playing the same characters as In Time Goes By tbh. I like to think they were — obviously they couldn’t talk about work at home though.

 

[Captaindemotion]

The worst thing about Drax is the dudes who look like Drax in real life.

A bit harsh on Peter Dinklage

 

[Commander Troi]

I'm sorry, but Wayne Newton is a guy who gets cast on the Love Boat, not in a James Bond movie. He's right up (down?) there with Jimmy "Sausage" Dean in terms of casting.

And yet, Newton plays a good villain. He did a good job here and in The Adventures of Ford Fairlane.

 

[cooleddie74]

Wayne is from my hometown. He may be cheesy, but Professor Joe Butcher was needed comic relief in what until 2006 was the darkest James Bond film and he worked.

 

[Starkers]

I assume some of the cast in DAF were in the same vein as Newton?

I mean Putter Smith (Mr Kidd) wasn't even an actor!

Leonard Barr (Shady Tree) had done a bit of acting prior to DAF but I think he tended to play comedians, which was his main profession.

 

[cooleddie74]

Putter Smith's wooden delivery actually helped his performance, making him that much creepier and unsettling. Bruce Glover is the superior performer, but without Smith's frizzy-haired, bland personality spouting the lines he does Mr. Wint wouldn't have been as effective playing off of Kidd.

 

[Starkers]

Putter Smith's wooden delivery actually helped his performance, making him that much creepier and unsettling. Bruce Glover is the superior performer, but without Smith's frizzy-haired, bland personality spouting the lines he does Mr. Wint wouldn't have been as effective playing off of Kidd.

Oh absolutely. They're a wonderful duo and genuinely dangerous right up until they fail miserable to kill Bond multiple times.

 

[cooleddie74]

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[Rowdy Roddy McDowall]

Oh absolutely. They're a wonderful duo and genuinely dangerous right up until they fail miserable to kill Bond multiple times.

Is Putter Smith still with us? My 1980s comic vendor looked EXACTLY like him.

 

[HIjol]

Putter Smith's wooden delivery actually helped his performance, making him that much creepier and unsettling. Bruce Glover is the superior performer, but without Smith's frizzy-haired, bland personality spouting the lines he does Mr. Wint wouldn't have been as effective playing off of Kidd.

The Children will be SO thrilled…

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He's right up (down?) there with Jimmy "Sausage" Dean in terms of casting.

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[cardinal biggles]

Yes, he's still alive. So is Bruce Glover. Who's up for a Mr. Wint & Mr. Kidd background cameo in the next Bond film?