Ok. What is the chance of a Picard spinoff?

[C.E. Evans]

In the 23rd century, 70 is the new 35.

Admiral McCoy was fairly spry for a man of only 137.

True but I have my own questions on McCoy too...

Although some non-canon works have taken it as commonplace, I always felt that McCoy reaching 137 was far more the exception than the rule for Human life-spans in the 24th-Century. Even an average increase to 100 would represent a major increase in Human longevity compared to what we have today, IMO.

As far as the chances of a Picard spinoff, I'm having second thoughts about it now. With the apparent burst of the streaming bubble, Paramount+'s internal issues, and more and more studios looking for ways to cut costs in general, I think the window of opportunity for a Picard spinoff is closing as time drags on. Assuming Starfleet Academy doesn't bomb, I can see that being the sole Trek series when SNW ends and any future series being a spinoff of those shows rather than Picard.

 

[Paul Weaver]

Although some non-canon works have taken it as commonplace, I always felt that McCoy reaching 137 was far more the exception than the rule for Human life-spans in the 24th-Century. Even an average increase to 100 would represent a major increase in Human longevity compared to what we have today, IMO.

Picard was at the academy for "class of 27" (presumably 2327), Picard was Academy age (22 would fit), and Boothby was about Picards age [in 2368]

That would put Boothby about 40 years older than Picard, or around 100, and still working a physical job.

We know that "class of 27" might not refer to 2327 though, given Data's "class of 78" in EaF, but there's enough other evidence to put Picard's Academy days in his early 20s and about 40 years before First Duty, thus making Boothby about 40 years older than Picard.

 

[C.E. Evans]

Picard was at the academy for "class of 27" (presumably 2327), Picard was Academy age (22 would fit), and Boothby was about Picards age [in 2368]

That would put Boothby about 40 years older than Picard, or around 100, and still working a physical job.

We know that "class of 27" might not refer to 2327 though, given Data's "class of 78" in EaF, but there's enough other evidence to put Picard's Academy days in his early 20s and about 40 years before First Duty, thus making Boothby about 40 years older than Picard.

I still think that's atypical.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I still think that's atypical.

Wasn’t he more machine than man?

 

[Detached Nacelle]

Although some non-canon works have taken it as commonplace, I always felt that McCoy reaching 137 was far more the exception than the rule for Human life-spans in the 24th-Century. Even an average increase to 100 would represent a major increase in Human longevity compared to what we have today, IMO.

Isn't 140 the new 100. The way Dax described her prediction O'Brien living to 140 and dying in bed surrounded by family is like the way people would describe living til 100 today. Achievable but not all that common really.

 

[Tomalak]

I always assumed McCoy was absolutely exceptional, and had kept himself going with all sorts of experimental treatments.

The real question is why he still had that drive to live. It suggests he had someone or something special in his life, which is a nice thought.

 

[C.E. Evans]

Isn't 140 the new 100. The way Dax described her prediction O'Brien living to 140 and dying in bed surrounded by family is like the way people would describe living til 100 today. Achievable but not all that common really.

Yeah, some people have assumed that 140 (or more) is common for Humans, when McCoy actually suggested the opposite:

DATA:...at your age, sir, I thought you shouldn't have to put up with the time and trouble of a shuttlecraft.
MCCOY: Hold it right there, boy.
DATA: Sir?
MCCOY: What about my age?
DATA: Sorry, sir. If that subject troubles you...
MCCOY: Troubles me? What's so damned troubling about not having died?

I think if 137 was something that was common for most Humans, McCoy wouldn't have said that last bit. Sounds to me that he found it remarkable to still be around.

 

[TedShatner10]

Nah, it's been a bloodless coup and they own all the guns anyway.

They own MANY guns, not all of the guns, and due to evil eventually being self-sabotaging they'll be very fratricidal and make too many new enemies in a pretty vast, diverse continent they're trying to control and extract with an iron fist.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Nah, it's been a bloodless coup and they own all the guns anyway.

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[FederationHistorian]

It may well be intended as a replacement for Lower Decks in the comedy arena.

There's absolutely no way a sitcom can replace Picard.

Anything is possible. What if they fused the ideas of Legacy and Tawny’s show into one, and set it a hundred years after PIC S3?

What happened to the Picard movie they were supposedly writing?

There’s been no movement since it was announced it was in development. But there has been a sale going on. And S31 was only released recently, so Paramount probably wanted to see how that movie did first before committing to anything else.

The one silver lining to S31 being negatively received by viewers and critics alike is that Paramount might give Stewart what he wants in making it a theatrical movie. No way they tell a coherent PIC movie/TNG reunion movie as its been pitched in 90 minutes, They are not going to have the time to give the whole cast a decent amount of screentime. Need the full two hours.

Your best chance of Legacy is a TV movie.

I could see a 90 minute Legacy tv movie leading into a PIC/TNG theatrical movie.

You would have P+ bin an entire format simply because ONE movie didn't work out.

They may not be making any more S31 films, but I can't see them throwing out movies altogether.

I don’t think the format is doomed either. There's potential for movies based around LD, PRO, SNW, Legacy, even Starfleet Academy and Tawny’s show.

S31 was in development for seven years (it went from being a series to a limited series to a movie). It's an extreme situation.

That was also meant to fulfill Michelle Yeoh's contract.

See I would much prefer them to not abandon the Section 31 subseries.

It’s not that S31 isn’t fixable that a miniseries or even another movie cannot made.

It’s that do we want them to fix it if this is the quality we are going to keep getting from them? Better off letting the whole concept go if that’s the case.

 

[HotRod]

What if they fused the ideas of Legacy and Tawny’s show into one, and set it a hundred years after PIC S3?

Doesn't that defeat the entire desired purpose of Legacy? Or at least how certain fans and Thy Lord Terry have envisioned it?

The one silver lining to S31 being negatively received by viewers and critics alike is that Paramount might give Stewart what he wants in making it a theatrical movie. No way they tell a coherent PIC movie/TNG reunion movie as its been pitched in 90 minutes, They are not going to have the time to give the whole cast a decent amount of screentime. Need the full two hours.

leading into a PIC/TNG theatrical movie.

They're never gonna make another theatrical TNG movie. There just isn't an audience for it.

 

[Danja]

Doesn't that defeat the entire desired purpose of Legacy? Or at least how certain fans and Thy Lord Terry have envisioned it?

They're never gonna make another theatrical TNG movie. There just isn't an audience for it.

Who wants to take Grandpa out for another spin in his wheelchair?

 

[Dukhat]

They're never gonna make another theatrical TNG movie. There just isn't an audience for it.

Hell, they can't even make a movie with a new cast. When was the last time we heard about that 'Kelvin timeline prequel' nonsense?

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

Hell, they can't even make a movie with a new cast. When was the last time we heard about that 'Kelvin timeline prequel' nonsense?

Or the Tarantino TOS movie

 

[Mage]

Or the Tarantino TOS movie

That was officially stopped. Very simply put, he himself said his next movie will be his last, and he didn't want a Star Trek movie to be his last ever.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

It’s not that S31 isn’t fixable that a miniseries or even another movie cannot made.

It’s that do we want them to fix it if this is the quality we are going to keep getting from them? Better off letting the whole concept go if that’s the case.

Who said anything about fixing it? I want it continued, I don't view it as needing 'fixing' it served its purpose and has room to continue developing and evolving as it goes just like all series.

 

[Dukhat]

I personally never want to see Emperor Georgiou or Section 31 (whatever iteration of it they come up with) ever again. That doesn’t mean I wouldn’t want to see another Trek TV movie.

 

[Turtletrekker]

That was officially stopped. Very simply put, he himself said his next movie will be his last, and he didn't want a Star Trek movie to be his last ever.

And thank God for that. Tarantino is a talented director, but I don't want him coming anywhere near Star Trek.

 

[HotRod]

And thank God for that. Tarantino is a talented director, but I don't want him coming anywhere near Star Trek.

What? You don't wanna see Uhura's feet?

 

[Turtletrekker]

What? You don't wanna see Uhura's feet?

Well, we probably would have gotten Uma Thurman in Star Trek If Tarantino directed, and that would have been a good thing.