I don't like this news about SNW season 3 from Screen Rant

[Nerys Myk]

I just hope SNW "gets better" and much more like TOS episode atmospheres and feels.

It's the most TOS Trek has been since TOS.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I just don't understand why people get so bent over people choosing their own identity. It may not be your thing, but it's their thing and it should be respected as such.

Think of it this way. You're on your way to meet a man named Richard. When you meet him, he tells you "Richard was my dad and he was an a******", call me 'Dick'" Are you going to say, "No it says 'Richard' on your birth certificate and on your driver's license, therefore that's your name and that's what I'm going to call you"?

Of course not. That would be a dick move. Basically, what I'm saying is don't be a dick about it.

Gender pronouns are no different. Respect a person's choice because another person's choice is not about you. The people who get all bent over it are trying to make it about them.

 

[Dukhat]

A snippet from an interview where the show's composer makes comments about doing new things musically. Then SR spins that into an article that actually didn't require the aforementioned snippet. So business as usual.

And then the OP spins that into hating on nonbinary characters? Huh.

 

[WarpTenLizard]

I'm morbidly curious to hear what you think "nonbinary" means in the bedroom.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

How exactly is having a non-binary character exist "Forcing" anything on you?

 

[JLA]

I don't like this news about SNW season 3 from Screen Rant

What specific news in the article don't you like, OP?

 

[BillJ]

https://screenrant.com/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-3-genres-music-tease/#thread

PROBABLY JUST MY OPINION! So far I have loved SNW season 1 and a few episodes of season 2, but it has now started to drop off. I feel that things have just been getting worse since episode 1, which felt like traditional "Star Trek". Captain Pike is currently my favorite captain, and he especially stood out to me (positively and basically made the second season for me) when I forced my self to watch DSC seasons 1 and 2 just to know what happened before SNW and had to endure Michael Burnham's terrible character arc.

Samson 1 had only 2 episodes that sucked: "Lift Us Where Suffering May Not Reach" because it was sad, followed by "The Elysium Kingdom" which wasn't a bad episode, but I didn't like it. Honorable mention is "The Serene Squall" for having a non-binary main antagonist, no need to force that on us please when that kind of thing should be left in the bedroom and no one cares.

Now I feel SNW is becoming more trouble than it's worth, especially since now I don't like quite a few episodes in season 2. "Subspace Rhapsody" is among the worst I've ever seen, though it was funny at parts which only redeems it little (I dare say Star Trek should have a serious tone with some light laughs thrown in such as "The Trouble With Tribbles", not be a comedy like this). The same goes for "Those Old Scientists", attempts to be too funny. Not a fan over Lower Decks from what I have seen. "Tomorrow, Tomorrow, and Tomorrow" ruins the Romulans because La'an sees them when no one should have to this point (though Pike did as well, but I think he can get away with that because he might just forget the visuals and instead just remember the events after the vision like some people do in other movies). Finally, "Hegemony ruins the Gorn for me because it now makes them the main enemy of SNW. Star Trek TOS, despite still not really having Canon from developing it still (and getting retconned several times of course by new trek shows) made it clear the federation had never encountered the Gorn like this before. This skirmish nearly turns into an all out war from what the season 3 episode 1 teaser shows.

Season 3 is not looking good, with the characters becoming Vulcan in the first ever teaser for season 3. And they're looking to diverge even more and make Star Trek "Not Star Trek" by sticking to classic themes. If anything, SNW should be working to stick with and get back to the feel and similar themes of Star Trek: The Original Series, because it takes place right before. This includes SNW now clearly becoming a MUCH more serialized show, though having a new event every episode things carry over too much. SNW is going downhill for me, and I really want to see them "improve". The very first episode, convirntly called "Strange New Worlds" was absolutely perfect, one of the best Trek episodes I have seen thus far from Kelvin Movies, TOS, TAS, TOS movies, TNG season 1, Trials and Tribblations, First Contact, Voy seasons up to 3, and DSC seasons 1 and 2. I just hope SNW "gets better" and much more like TOS episode atmospheres and feels.

Then don’t watch it…

 

[Noname Given]

https://screenrant.com/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-3-genres-music-tease/#thread

PROBABLY JUST MY OPINION! So far I have loved SNW season 1 and a few episodes of season 2, but it has now started to drop off. I feel that things have just been getting worse since episode 1, which felt like traditional "Star Trek". Captain Pike is currently my favorite captain, and he especially stood out to me (positively and basically made the second season for me) when I forced my self to watch DSC seasons 1 and 2 just to know what happened before SNW and had to endure Michael Burnham's terrible character arc.

Samson 1 had only 2 episodes that sucked: "Lift Us Where Suffering May Not Reach" because it was sad, followed by "The Elysium Kingdom" which wasn't a bad episode, but I didn't like it. Honorable mention is "The Serene Squall" for having a non-binary main antagonist, no need to force that on us please when that kind of thing should be left in the bedroom and no one cares.

Now I feel SNW is becoming more trouble than it's worth, especially since now I don't like quite a few episodes in season 2. "Subspace Rhapsody" is among the worst I've ever seen, though it was funny at parts which only redeems it little (I dare say Star Trek should have a serious tone with some light laughs thrown in such as "The Trouble With Tribbles", not be a comedy like this). The same goes for "Those Old Scientists", attempts to be too funny. Not a fan over Lower Decks from what I have seen. "Tomorrow, Tomorrow, and Tomorrow" ruins the Romulans because La'an sees them when no one should have to this point (though Pike did as well, but I think he can get away with that because he might just forget the visuals and instead just remember the events after the vision like some people do in other movies). Finally, "Hegemony ruins the Gorn for me because it now makes them the main enemy of SNW. Star Trek TOS, despite still not really having Canon from developing it still (and getting retconned several times of course by new trek shows) made it clear the federation had never encountered the Gorn like this before. This skirmish nearly turns into an all out war from what the season 3 episode 1 teaser shows.

Season 3 is not looking good, with the characters becoming Vulcan in the first ever teaser for season 3. And they're looking to diverge even more and make Star Trek "Not Star Trek" by sticking to classic themes. If anything, SNW should be working to stick with and get back to the feel and similar themes of Star Trek: The Original Series, because it takes place right before. This includes SNW now clearly becoming a MUCH more serialized show, though having a new event every episode things carry over too much. SNW is going downhill for me, and I really want to see them "improve". The very first episode, convirntly called "Strange New Worlds" was absolutely perfect, one of the best Trek episodes I have seen thus far from Kelvin Movies, TOS, TAS, TOS movies, TNG season 1, Trials and Tribblations, First Contact, Voy seasons up to 3, and DSC seasons 1 and 2. I just hope SNW "gets better" and much more like TOS episode atmospheres and feels.

You have 7 Seasons of TNG and 7 Season of VOY <--- Or as I like to call them "Boring Berman Trek" to enjoy. Guess SNW isn't your show (like TNG and VOY really aren't mine - LOVE TOS though.)

I don't include DS9 or ENT in the above as the later seasons of those shows were enjoyable for me. YMMV.

 

[JLA]

I'm looking forward to season 3 SNW. Unequivocally. Wholeheartedly.

I will say I'm not a huge fan of the singing episode, Subspace Rhapsody. That's about as controversial as I get, I think. At least for this series.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Then don’t watch it…

Too reasonable. Unsurprisingly, it doesn't appear that you're Internetting correctly.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I'm looking forward to season 3 SNW. Unequivocally. Wholeheartedly.

I will say I'm not a huge fan of the singing episode, Subspace Rhapsody. That's about as controversial as I get, I think. At least for this series.

I loved the musical episode, but it's certainly not something I want to see them do on a regular basis. That said, this is a franchise that is fast approaching 1,000 canonical entries (953 and counting, if my math is correct). If one in a thousand entries can't be a musical or crossover with an animated show, then what's the point?

 

[JLA]

I loved the musical episode, but it's certainly not something I want to see them do on a regular basis. That said, this is a franchise that is fast approaching 1,000 canonical entries (953 and counting, if my math is correct). If one in a thousand entries can't be a musical or crossover with an animated show, then what's the point?

That's a healthy way to look at it, many thanks. I think I got stuck thinking too small. SNW has only 20 episodes total released so far. I loved the animated crossover episode, Those Old Scientists. Wonderful.

 

[T'Bonz]

All right guys. Let's *not* have this discussion here.

Watch the show or don't.

 

[nightwind1]

https://screenrant.com/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-3-genres-music-tease/#thread

PROBABLY JUST MY OPINION! So far I have loved SNW season 1 and a few episodes of season 2, but it has now started to drop off. I feel that things have just been getting worse since episode 1, which felt like traditional "Star Trek". Captain Pike is currently my favorite captain, and he especially stood out to me (positively and basically made the second season for me) when I forced my self to watch DSC seasons 1 and 2 just to know what happened before SNW and had to endure Michael Burnham's terrible character arc.

Samson 1 had only 2 episodes that sucked: "Lift Us Where Suffering May Not Reach" because it was sad, followed by "The Elysium Kingdom" which wasn't a bad episode, but I didn't like it. Honorable mention is "The Serene Squall" for having a non-binary main antagonist, no need to force that on us please when that kind of thing should be left in the bedroom and no one cares.

Now I feel SNW is becoming more trouble than it's worth, especially since now I don't like quite a few episodes in season 2. "Subspace Rhapsody" is among the worst I've ever seen, though it was funny at parts which only redeems it little (I dare say Star Trek should have a serious tone with some light laughs thrown in such as "The Trouble With Tribbles", not be a comedy like this). The same goes for "Those Old Scientists", attempts to be too funny. Not a fan over Lower Decks from what I have seen. "Tomorrow, Tomorrow, and Tomorrow" ruins the Romulans because La'an sees them when no one should have to this point (though Pike did as well, but I think he can get away with that because he might just forget the visuals and instead just remember the events after the vision like some people do in other movies). Finally, "Hegemony ruins the Gorn for me because it now makes them the main enemy of SNW. Star Trek TOS, despite still not really having Canon from developing it still (and getting retconned several times of course by new trek shows) made it clear the federation had never encountered the Gorn like this before. This skirmish nearly turns into an all out war from what the season 3 episode 1 teaser shows.

Season 3 is not looking good, with the characters becoming Vulcan in the first ever teaser for season 3. And they're looking to diverge even more and make Star Trek "Not Star Trek" by sticking to classic themes. If anything, SNW should be working to stick with and get back to the feel and similar themes of Star Trek: The Original Series, because it takes place right before. This includes SNW now clearly becoming a MUCH more serialized show, though having a new event every episode things carry over too much. SNW is going downhill for me, and I really want to see them "improve". The very first episode, convirntly called "Strange New Worlds" was absolutely perfect, one of the best Trek episodes I have seen thus far from Kelvin Movies, TOS, TAS, TOS movies, TNG season 1, Trials and Tribblations, First Contact, Voy seasons up to 3, and DSC seasons 1 and 2. I just hope SNW "gets better" and much more like TOS episode atmospheres and feels.

Amazing. Everything you just said is wrong.

 

[Vagabond Elf]

I loved the musical episode, but it's certainly not something I want to see them do on a regular basis. That said, this is a franchise that is fast approaching 1,000 canonical entries (953 and counting, if my math is correct). If one in a thousand entries can't be a musical or crossover with an animated show, then what's the point?

My only complaint with the musical episode was that it was too close to the Lower Decks crossover. Having both the comic releif episodes in the back quarter of the season really disrupted the tone, I felt. It would've worked better if the musical episode was number 4 or 5.

Other than that, I thought it was perfect. If Season 3 is Season 2 only more so, I'll be very happy. I admit I'm not keep on what they've done with the Gorn but a few posts on here have convinced me to wait that out and see if they're playing the long game. In any case, I'm in the "SNW is a reboot" camp so I don't care if details don't line up with Bill, Len, and De's show.

SNW is the ethos of TOS but made with not only 21st century tools but 21st century storytelling, and I'm here for it.

 

[AntonyF]

I found the magical episode from season quite tedious and would dump that before the musical.

To echo JLA there's only 20 episodes so far.... I don't mind the aberrations as a palette cleanser amongst a busy season when they were doing 26 episodes a year. But when there's only 10 per year, part of me does want to say... "stay focused!" There's an entire galaxy to explore.

Also the musical worked in Buffy as it unpacked a lot of trauma in season six. With SNW they've barely just arrived, there's not a strong emotional backing to the songs. So I don't hate it, but also... I feel there could be a better use of time.

 

[Danja]

I just don't understand why people get so bent over people choosing their own identity. It may not be your thing, but it's their thing and it should be respected as such.

Think of it this way. You're on your way to meet a man named Richard. When you meet him, he tells you "Richard was my dad and he was an a******", call me 'Dick'" Are you going to say, "No it says 'Richard' on your birth certificate and on your driver's license, therefore that's your name and that's what I'm going to call you"?

Of course not. That would be a dick move. Basically, what I'm saying is don't be a dick about it.

Gender pronouns are no different. Respect a person's choice because another person's choice is not about you. The people who get all bent over it are trying to make it about them.

There are a lot of controlling people out there.

 

[Brainsucker]

So when will the season 3 air? And what about section 31. When will it air?

 

[F. King Daniel]

So when will the season 3 air? And what about section 31. When will it air?

Section 31 comes Jan 24, no idea about SNW3

 

[Firebird]

But when there's only 10 per year, part of me does want to say... "stay focused!" There's an entire galaxy to explore.

What a bonkers thing to say when the setup for the musical is an unknown spatial anomaly, which is the franchise’s exploratory bread and butter. That’s the Enterprise doing what it does best.

The episode is literally following Star Trek’s entire mission statement.