Spoilers The Controversial Star Wars Opinion Thread

[Ithekro]

We have whatever Baylon Skol is after to deal with in S2 of Ahsoka. We have the potential return of the Nightsisters to power on Dathomir. There were plenty of Force cults based on Jedha back in the day. I image most Force cults went underground during the time of the Empire, especially after what happened to Jedha. Many may or may not have learned of Palpatine's end and the death of the Sith. The Jedi had The Path for at least ten years hiding Force Sensitives from the Empire and then you have whatever the fallout from the eventual third game for the Jedi: Fallen Order series will be for that part of The Path.

We also have a few other loose Jedi threads that are not just wrapped up: Jacen Syndulla and Ezra Bridger. Sabine Wrynn and Ahsoka Tano. Grogu. And that is only present day Mandoverse stuff. The assumption is that they are all gone by 35 ABY for Rey to be the Last Jedi. But we have been down that road before with Luke Skywalker being the Last of the Jedi, while all five of those mentioned were around (Luke probably knows Jacen personally, though the kid would be like four years old when the Rebels were going to Endor). We still haven't gotten the story of when Luke met Ahsoka, or when Ahsoka returned and met up with Sabine. We know it was sometime before the war ended, since she had started training Sabine before the Great Purge of Mandalore.

So there are a lot of paths and weaves already in the mythos that can be applied to Rey's New Jedi Order films set probably around 50 ABY to account for Daisy Ridley's age.

 

[fireproof78]

We have whatever Baylon Skol is after to deal with in S2 of Ahsoka. We have the potential return of the Nightsisters to power on Dathomir. There were plenty of Force cults based on Jedha back in the day. I image most Force cults went underground during the time of the Empire, especially after what happened to Jedha. Many may or may not have learned of Palpatine's end and the death of the Sith. The Jedi had The Path for at ten years hiding Force Sensitives from the Empire and then you have whatever the fallout from the eventual third game for the Jedi: Fallen Order series will be for that part of The Path.

This was something Legends did all the time; a story would come out and suddenly there was a new Force user, group or lost Jedi who happened to hide away until the Empire was gone.

I imagine that's still the case. In Legends, Tython gave rise to the first discovery of the Force but it would be just as reasonable for other groups to discover it and have their own mythology around it.

I personally think of latent Force powers like Vin in the first Mistborn book. She doesn't know her ability to influence emotions comes from a power but thinks of it as "luck" that she can occasionally tap in to.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

We have whatever Baylon Skol is after to deal with in S2 of Ahsoka. We have the potential return of the Nightsisters to power on Dathomir. There were plenty of Force cults based on Jedha back in the day. I image most Force cults went underground during the time of the Empire, especially after what happened to Jedha. Many may or may not have learned of Palpatine's end and the death of the Sith. The Jedi had The Path for at least ten years hiding Force Sensitives from the Empire and then you have whatever the fallout from the eventual third game for the Jedi: Fallen Order series will be for that part of The Path.

We also have a few other loose Jedi threads that are not just wrapped up: Jacen Syndulla and Ezra Bridger. Sabine Wrynn and Ahsoka Tano. Grogu. And that is only present day Mandoverse stuff. The assumption is that they are all gone by 35 ABY for Rey to be the Last Jedi. But we have been down that road before with Luke Skywalker being the Last of the Jedi, while all five of those mentioned were around (Luke probably knows Jacen personally, though the kid would be like four years old when the Rebels were going to Endor). We still haven't gotten the story of when Luke met Ahsoka, or when Ahsoka returned and met up with Sabine. We know it was sometime before the war ended, since she had started training Sabine before the Great Purge of Mandalore.

So there are a lot of paths and weaves already in the mythos that can be applied to Rey's New Jedi Order films set probably around 50 ABY to account for Daisy Ridley's age.

How old would everybody else be if it takes place in 50 ABY?

How old would Rey be in 50 ABY?

 

[Set Harth]

So there are a lot of paths and weaves already in the mythos that can be applied to Rey's New Jedi Order films set probably around 50 ABY to account for Daisy Ridley's age.

I don't think they'll go that far ahead, i think she can believably play younger.

 

[fireproof78]

How old would everybody else be if it takes place in 50 ABY?

How old would Rey be in 50 ABY?

34 if we go off of her being 19 in The Force Awakens.

According to Wookiepedia (so grain of salt) TFA/TLJ occurs in 35 ABY.

 

[Set Harth]

Supposedly TFA is 34 ABY, TROS is 35 ABY.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

So assuming Rey is 35 y/o by 50 ABY.
How about the rest of the cast you mentioned?

How old would everybody else be, assuming they're all alive.
I know some are not humans, so their lifespans might be a little different.

 

[fireproof78]

Poe is the oldest and would be around 48.

Finn would be around 38, if math holds.

 

[BillJ]

Poe is the oldest and would be around 48.

Finn would be around 38, if math holds.

I'd honestly be surprised if they end up in any more Star Wars movies.

 

[fireproof78]

I'd honestly be surprised if they end up in any more Star Wars movies.

A surprise to be sure but a welcomed one.

 

[BillJ]

A surprise to be sure but a welcomed one.

I think they'll put a new supporting cast around Daisy Ridley. Honestly, it probably wouldn't hurt.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

If Ahsoka Tano is still around by 50 ABY, she'd be 86 Human Y/O.
But given she's a Togruta, we don't know her life span.
According to google, Togruta's live to about 94-95 Human Y/O on average.

 

[BillJ]

If Ahsoka Tano is still around by 50 ABY, she'd be 86 Human Y/O.
But given she's a Togruta, we don't know her life span.
According to google, Togruta's live to about 94-95 Human Y/O on average.

One important thing about stories, don't get lost in the minutiae. Just tell the best story possible. Fans are smart, they'll figure it out.

 

[Ithekro]

Jacen would be roughly 50 years old. Grogu would be around 90 years old. Erza is the same age as Luke and Leia, so he'd be 69 years old, Sabine is slightly older, so she'd be maybe 71 years old.
It is a matter more of their legacies going forwards? Did Jacen get trained? Has he started training others? Did Erza start teaching? Does he survive the to the First Order era and beyond? Did Ahsoka and Sabine make it home or is Sabine teaching the locals about the Force as she knows it?

Grogu is about the only one that could do whatever. He chose to be a Mando and thus doesn't need to keep doing the Jedi thing. But his species is very long lived. He could go back to the Force at any point in the next several centuries if not with Rey (and honestly, what marketing department wouldn't want to have a young "teen" Grogu as Rey's student?)

 

[Reverend]

We still haven't gotten the story of when Luke met Ahsoka, or when Ahsoka returned and met up with Sabine.

For the former; I think it's strongly implied through context clues in their scene together that this happened not long before Dyn showed up, and almost certainly after Luke rescued Grogu.
As for the latter . . . obviously it's at some point after the liberation of Lothal, which is damn near concurrent with 'Rogue One'. However the greater extant of that window all depends on when the Purge of Mandalore occurred. "Towards the end of the war" could mean immediately before the Battle of Endor, around the same time as the Battle of Hoth, or between Endor and Jakku.

Given how sticky it is having Ahsoka running around during the events of the OT with a Rebel padawan that isn't Luke, I'm inclined to think that Ahsoka didn't come out of hiding (or even escape from Malachor?) until just after Endor. That gives her and Sabine a good year together before it fell apart, and a good three to five years of them being estranged. (I'd bet money of Ryder's "several years ago" line being dubbed over from an originally scripted "seven years ago.")

But his species is very long lived. He could go back to the Force at any point in the next several centuries if not with Rey (and honestly, what marketing department wouldn't want to have a young "teen" Grogu as Rey's student?)

I think that's a false dichotomy. Grogu choosing not to continue his Jedi training isn't the same thing as turning away from the force. Luke taught him enough so that he could protect himself first; something we've repeatedly see him do since in BoBF and Mando Season 3. The Jedi are not the force after all.
Being a Jedi is as much about the commitment as it is a set of belifs and philosophy.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

If Grogu is 90 y/o what is that equivalent to in human years, given his species long life-span?

 

[Ithekro]

If Grogu is 90 y/o what is that equivalent to in human years, given his species long life-span?

Grogu at 50 acts like a toddler. He might be developly stunted due to Clone Wars trauma, since he seemed about the same (if smaller) at the age of 22 during Order 66. Yoda was said to have taught Jedi since he was about 100 years old. So, Grogu could become more like an older child by the 90 but experienced enough to be equal to a padawan and/or Jedi Knight. Body wise...maybe a 9-10 year old, but with 40 years of experience as a Mando-apprentice (or padawan).

By the time of the series of Ahsoka, seven years ago would roughly two years after Yavin and possibly two and a half years after Thrawn and Ezra vanished. Meaning Lothal was liberated about ten years prior to the events of Ahsoka (seeing it should be some time since the start of the Mandoverse start at 9 ABY).

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Grogu at 50 acts like a toddler. He might be developly stunted due to Clone Wars trauma, since he seemed about the same (if smaller) at the age of 22 during Order 66. Yoda was said to have taught Jedi since he was about 100 years old. So, Grogu could become more like an older child by the 90 but experienced enough to be equal to a padawan and/or Jedi Knight. Body wise...maybe a 9-10 year old, but with 40 years of experience as a Mando-apprentice (or padawan).

By the time of the series of Ahsoka, seven years ago would roughly two years after Yavin and possibly two and a half years after Thrawn and Ezra vanished. Meaning Lothal was liberated about ten years prior to the events of Ahsoka (seeing it should be some time since the start of the Mandoverse start at 9 ABY).

That would be interesting to see if he's a "Force Wielding" Mandalorian Alien of Yoda's species.

That would be a very unique situation.

Also, they don't seem to ever want to give Yoda/Grogu/Yaddle's species a proper name.

 

[Reverend]

By the time of the series of Ahsoka, seven years ago would roughly two years after Yavin and possibly two and a half years after Thrawn and Ezra vanished. Meaning Lothal was liberated about ten years prior to the events of Ahsoka (seeing it should be some time since the start of the Mandoverse start at 9 ABY).

My point wasn't that the events of the Rebels finale happened earlier, but that I suspect the (seemingly) altered line indicates that Filloni may have dated the events of the Mandoverse to be a bit sooner than have previously been vaguely indicated "6 years-ish after Jedi" in interviews and the like.

*If* that holds (in Dave's mind, if not specifically on-screen) that would place the shows closer to three years after Endor (two after Jakku), which I honestly think works a little better.
For one; Boba's time with the Tuskens and subsequent wanderings seem a little bit more reasonable, for another the statue of the New Republic and Imperial Remnant are both somewhat in flux and fragile, the reconstruction and reconciliation efforts still in full swing, piracy along the outland regions is still spiking, and the underworld is still trying to fill the various power vacuums left by the death of Jabba and the chaos wrought by Crimson Dawn.
Especially so if season one of Mando happens a good year or even two before the events of Ahsoka/Mando Season 3/Skeleton Crew.

It would hardly be the only time Filloni's own timeline ideas would clash with what's been put out in reference books. Pretty sure he's on record saying he considers the Clone Wars to have occurred over something more like 5 years than the usually proposed 3 (which I also happen to prefer for a number or reasons.)

 

[The Wormhole]

Also, they don't seem to ever want to give Yoda/Grogu/Yaddle's species a proper name.

George Lucas actually forbid doing so while he was in charge. It seems Disney (or at least Filoni) seems willing to honor that wish since purchasing the franchise.