Your opinion on SNWs Gorn

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Perhaps those Gorn caught the augment virus, too, and this was the result.

 

[oberth]

A study of human societies will show that both of these things are capable of both.

really? know any soldiers? ask them what they trhink of it

 

[Nerys Myk]

Perhaps those Gorn caught the augment virus, too, and this was the result.

 

[fireproof78]

really? know any soldiers? ask them what they trhink of it

That a population will be able to produce individuals capable of both.


Though my uncle was a soldier and also one of the smartest people I know.

 

[oberth]

That a population will be able to produce individuals capable of both.


Though my uncle was a soldier and also one of the smartest people I know.

... and a bloodthirsty maniac? nobody wants those in their military

 

[fireproof78]

... and a bloodthirsty maniac? nobody wants those in their military

My larger point was that a race can produce both bloodthirsty maniacs and intelligent beings.


And I'm sure that if one studies history that bloodthirsty was considered advantageous in someone's militaries. But, again, the argument I was responding too was that somehow the Gorn as presented in SNW could not build an advanced civilization. Yet, a cursory study of human history and empires shows that human beings are capable of great buildings and inventions, and great cruelty and torture.

The Gorn are probably equally capable of such diversity of beings.

 

[justin359]

Not really sure what any of this means

 

[Nerys Myk]

Not really sure what any of this means

People disagree about the Gorn.

 

[Dukhat]

Not really sure what any of this means

Go watch the Alien movies. Then watch SNW. Then you’ll understand what it all means.

 

[Tallguy]

Go watch the Alien movies. Then watch SNW. Then you’ll understand what it all means.

Are you saying that the Gorn are the "perfect organism"?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Are you saying that the Gorn are the "perfect organism"?

Nuke them orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

 

[Tallguy]

Nuke them orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

They mostly come out at night. Mostly.

And pass the cornbread.

 

[Daedalus]

Controversial opinion, but once I saw the eggmorphing scene in the Alien Director's cut, the queen seemed less interesting to me. Not that the power loader fight wasn't cool, it definitely was, but the alternate life cycle was a bit more horrific.

 

[Frontis]

I already posted this somewhere else, I generally I love SNW but I don't like the SNW Gorn because they're a copy of the Aliens from the Alien movies imo.

 

[Tallguy]

I already posted this somewhere else, I generally I love SNW but I don't like the SNW Gorn because they're a copy of the Aliens from the Alien movies imo.

I have my objections to the Gorn (pretty much only that they are named "Gorn") but this isn't one of them. Has anyone every watched The Enemy Below and Balance of Terror back to back?

"Writer Paul Schneider (1923-2008) derived this episode from the World War II naval-submarine film The Enemy Below (1957). Apparently, fellow science fiction writer Harlan Ellison was gravely upset and refused to speak with Mr. Schneider following this episode because he felt true science fiction should be wholly original rather than derivative."

 

[Dukhat]

I have my objections to the Gorn (pretty much only that they are named "Gorn") but this isn't one of them. Has anyone every watched The Enemy Below and Balance of Terror back to back?

"Writer Paul Schneider (1923-2008) derived this episode from the World War II naval-submarine film The Enemy Below (1957). Apparently, fellow science fiction writer Harlan Ellison was gravely upset and refused to speak with Mr. Schneider following this episode because he felt true science fiction should be wholly original rather than derivative."

There’s a difference between taking an idea from a WWII submarine film and using it for a science fiction show, and taking an idea from a science fiction film and using it for a science fiction show.

 

[Nerys Myk]

There’s a difference between taking an idea from a WWII submarine film and using it for a science fiction show, and taking an idea from a science fiction film and using it for a science fiction show.

Is there?

Bannon on writing Alien

O'Bannon drew inspiration from many works of science fiction and horror. He later said: "I didn't steal Alien from anybody. I stole it from everybody!"[36] The Thing from Another World (1951) inspired the idea of professional men being pursued by a deadly alien creature through a claustrophobic environment.[36] Forbidden Planet (1956) gave O'Bannon the idea of a ship being warned not to land, and then the crew being killed one by one by a mysterious creature when they defy the warning.[36] Planet of the Vampires (1965) contains a scene in which the heroes discover a giant alien skeleton; this influenced the Nostromo crew's discovery of the alien creature in the derelict spacecraft.[36] O'Bannon has also noted the influence of "Junkyard" (1953), a short story by Clifford D. Simak in which a crew lands on an asteroid and discovers a chamber full of eggs.[30] He has also cited as influences Strange Relations by Philip José Farmer (1960), which covers alien reproduction and various EC Comics horror titles carrying stories in which monsters eat their way out of people.[30]

 

[Dukhat]

Yes, because none of those examples are of O’Bannon blatantly and unashamedly copying something specific for his movie. There’s being inspired, and then there’s ripping off.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Yes, because none of those examples are of O’Bannon blatantly and unashamedly copying something specific for his movie.

He actually gives a list of what he stole.

 

[TRON JA307020]

Is there?

Bannon on writing Alien

The gorn are pretty much zenomorphs now. The episode where they meet the gorn was like watching a short alien movie. It was way more than just being inspired.