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Captain Shaw would be an acceptable lead character, had he not died near the end of PIC Season 3.

I never understood why people thought he’d be a good lead. He’s entertaining, yes, but he’s a total asshole and hardly a model of Star Trek’s aspirational moral vision. He’s the kind of guy you imagine sitting up all night trolling people on whatever 25th century equivalent they have of Reddit.
 
I never understood why people thought he’d be a good lead. He’s entertaining, yes, but he’s a total asshole and hardly a model of Star Trek’s aspirational moral vision. He’s the kind of guy you imagine sitting up all night trolling people on whatever 25th century equivalent they have of Reddit.
Honestly, both Sisko and (TOS) Pike were assholes when they’re first shown too. They’re people in pain, who don’t really know how to deal with that pain and move on.

To me, that’s a much more interesting character journey, and says much more about Trek’s “aspirational” future. That arguably what Roddenberry valued about this future society is that no one is ever so broken as to not have a chance to become better, find their purpose, and a reason to go on again.

Plus, in my opinion, much of the cast for DSC fall into the “total asshole” category when we first meet them too. But I thought the difference was they were not likable or relatable in how they were assholes.

You understand why Sisko treats Picard like a jerk in DS9’s “Emissary.” It’s not right, but the man is still hurting from his wife, and still constantly living in the moment of her death. And Shaw has a similar backstory with survivor’s guilt. That’s something you can wrap your head around and understand why someone is in a bad place. And Shaw’s journey over season 3, where he’s outwardly a prick, but down deep he cared about Seven of Nine and DID respect her, makes that revelation when Tuvok plays his recommendation for her captaincy at the end feel earned.

Contrast that with Stamets on DSC, where he’s just an arrogant prick because he’s an arrogant prick when we first meet him.
 
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Darn. I misread that. I thought you were saying that you're 88 now. I expect that if I make it to 88 the odds are decent I'll still be nattering away about Star Trek. It would be nice to see other people already doing it.

(I'll apparently be 95ish. The real kicker is that my KIDS will be about my age now!)
 
SNW had Akiva Goldsman in it's corner. He was pushing for it from second he was hired.

Yup. The show would have happened whether fans wanted it or not.

LEG is one of those projects I was gung ho about in 2023 but in the past year have grown almost completely cold on. We can do better, both for the in-universe direction of the franchise in the early 25th century and for viewers.

As I’ve mentioned multiple times, there’s already a show about a crew on an Enterprise. Showing another one would just be redundant.

But to me, it wouldn’t matter anyway. Once they show the Section 31 movie and SNW season 3, I’m canceling my P+. More SNW and the SFA series and whatever Tawny’s pet project is, is just not enough to keep me paying. And at this point, like what was stated above, any interest I might have had in a Legacy series has hopped on a ship and sailed away. CBSTrek is on life support for me right now.
 
future society is that no one is ever so broken as to not have a chance to become better, find their purpose, and a reason to go on again.
That is what I do like about the aspirational future aspect of that people who maybe didn't even realize it could become better. Even people who would be considered more antithetical to Gene's idea in Quark and his eeveel capitalist ways want to become better from time to time.

It's an idea that appeals to me because human history is fraught with darkness and brokenness and people need hope that anyone can become better. Pandora's box needs that last item to remain inside.
 
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Controversial opinion: While history in the Trek universe can be fun to speculate and argue over, in the end it does not matter. Any Trek show is about what’s happening now in the actual story. Pretending too hard that it’s “supposed to be an alternate universe!” is just as silly as pretending too hard that it’s “the real actual future!”, because neither is true. The Wrath of Khan is about Kirk and Spock et al and what they’ll do for each other; it’s not about The Fact That Khan Left Earth In 1996. That stuff’s just trivia. It’s the same reason the various X-isn’t-canon people completely miss the point: any of these stories is about the story, not the color of the toothpaste.
 
Controversial opinion: While history in the Trek universe can be fun to speculate and argue over, in the end it does not matter. Any Trek show is about what’s happening now in the actual story. Pretending too hard that it’s “supposed to be an alternate universe!” is just as silly as pretending too hard that it’s “the real actual future!”, because neither is true. The Wrath of Khan is about Kirk and Spock et al and what they’ll do for each other; it’s not about The Fact That Khan Left Earth In 1996. That stuff’s just trivia. It’s the same reason the various X-isn’t-canon people completely miss the point: any of these stories is about the story, not the color of the toothpaste.
My general feeling is that keeping the general Trek history is important to disconnect from real world history because the real world isn't as interesting.
 
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