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Since the date isn't as important as the event, why not? Again, it's fiction not history.
Ok, but you would cause alot of Trek Nerds to become very angry that you're doing this.

It's not worth the trouble to re-tread old material.

Just move onto the future of Trek and stop covering old material like this.
 
Ok, but you would cause alot of Trek Nerds to become very angry that you're doing this.

It's not worth the trouble to re-tread old material.

Just move onto the future of Trek and stop covering old material like this.
IT's literally what Trek is doing right now.

Fans are constantly angry. I honestly don't know if many fans know how to not be angry. :shrug:
 
Ok, but you would cause alot of Trek Nerds to become very angry that you're doing this.
Not seeing the downside.

If these "nerds" think the dates are more important than the stories and themes, then it's my unpopular opinion that they're doing it wrong. Star Trek isn't a trivia contest or a history quiz.
It's not worth the trouble to re-tread old material.
Because it makes some nerds uncomfortable? SNW has proven there is plenty of life left in the 23rd Century.

Just move onto the future of Trek and stop covering old material like this.
The 23rd Century is the future.
 
Space Seed explicitly calls the Eugenics Wars as World War III and says the Botany Bay has been lost since 1996. Bread and Circuses at least only refers to WWIII and only by death count not by time. I see no evidence that Colonel Green's War is connected to either conflict. (No evidence that it's not, sure.)
Actually, Space Seed never mentions a number.

SPOCK: No such vessel listed. Records of that period are fragmentary, however. The mid=1990s was the era of your last so-called World War.
MCCOY: The Eugenics Wars.

WWIII is not explicitly stated. The Eugenics Wars is/are only called the last of the World Wars. Could be III, could be V.

Of course, other episodes do not refer to any World Wars past 3. It's easy and understandable to connect the one to the other. But this is the Internet so we don't go for easy and understandable.
 
When aren't Trekkies mad about something?
When it's covering material that is "Post TNG".

IT's literally what Trek is doing right now.

Fans are constantly angry. I honestly don't know if many fans know how to not be angry.
They do, you just have to satisfy the majority of them.

Not seeing the downside.

If these "nerds" think the dates are more important than the stories and themes, then it's my unpopular opinion that they're doing it wrong. Star Trek isn't a trivia contest or a history quiz.

Because it makes some nerds uncomfortable? SNW has proven there is plenty of life left in the 23rd Century.
But it covers the era, immediately right before TOS.

The 23rd Century is the future.
I'm talking post Nemesis time frame.

ST:Legacy era, where it's the start of the 25th century.
 
When it's covering material that is "Post TNG".
Nah. It's mixed Bag. Some people hate PRO, LDS and PIC.
They do, you just have to satisfy the majority of them.
Just make a good product. Screw "the majority."
But it covers the era, immediately right before TOS.
So? What difference does that make?
I'm talking post Nemesis time frame.

ST:Legacy era, where it's the start of the 25th century.
There is no "ST: Legacy" era or otherwise. Make good product set in what ever era works best.
 
Nah. It's mixed Bag. Some people hate PRO, LDS and PIC.
That sucks to be them, I'm enjoying all of them.

Just make a good product. Screw "the majority."
And that's how you fail to hit the mark.

You do need to worry about "the majority".

So? What difference does that make?
It makes ALOT of difference to the fans of that era of Trek.
It's easier to move forward than to move backwards in terms of what part of the timeline you want to cover.

There is no "ST: Legacy" era or otherwise. Make good product set in what ever era works best.
You don't like Terry Matala's proposal for "ST:Legacy"?
 
That sucks to be them, I'm enjoying all of them.
I'm fan of PRO and LDS, myself. Parts of PIC as well.
And that's how you fail to hit the mark.

You do need to worry about "the majority"
Sounds like something someone who "toes the company line" would say. :lol:
It makes ALOT of difference to the fans of that era of Trek.
It's easier to move forward than to move backwards in terms of what part of the timeline you want to cover.
As a fan of TOS and someone who has watched it from pretty much the beginning I'll have to disagree with that broad generalization.

I find SNW much more satisfying as fiction and Star Trek, than PIC.
You don't like Terry Matala's proposal for "ST:Legacy"?
Star Trek: Nepo Baby? Hard pass.
 
You do need to worry about "the majority".
What I'm hearing is "make more Strange New Worlds."
You don't like Terry Matala's proposal for "ST:Legacy"?
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They do, you just have to satisfy the majority of them.
I haven't seen it in my fan experience. There's always a fan mad about something.
You do need to worry about "the majority".
No, you need to worry about making an entertaining product. That's the whole point of the framework of "action/adventure" in STAR TREK and TOS original series bible. Entertain first. If you do that, then the majority will find it entertaining before moving on.

As a fan of TOS and someone who has watched it from pretty much the beginning I'll have to disagree with that broad generalization.

I find SNW much more satisfying as fiction and Star Trek, than PIC.
Indeed. SNW takes the best parts of "The Cage", mainly "Pike" and his challenges, and weaves it in to the TOS era familiar elements while still feeling more modern and a reasonable projection of our future. As far as tight rope walks go, it does that pretty well.
 
I'm fan of PRO and LDS, myself. Parts of PIC as well.
Good!

Sounds like something someone who "toes the company line" would say. :lol:
Funny, I want more Trek TV shows to get produced, you don't make them w/o getting results from your existing series and making hits.

As a fan of TOS and someone who has watched it from pretty much the beginning I'll have to disagree with that broad generalization.
You weren't part of the fanbase who were complaining about the setting of SNW.

I find SNW much more satisfying as fiction and Star Trek, than PIC.
As much as I enjoy the TOS era, I'm still a TNG era guy, so I like that time frame of the late 24th / early 25th century more.

Star Trek: Nepo Baby? Hard pass.
He's "Our Nepo Baby". Terry Matalas is a Trekkie, just like us.

What I'm hearing is "make more Strange New Worlds."
I have no issue with this, I LOVE ST:SNW.

That's a can of Worms I'm willing to support.

I haven't seen it in my fan experience. There's always a fan mad about something.
Don't worry about the whiny fans who complain.
You're never going to satisfy everybody, just do the best you can and try to get as many people satisfied as possible.

No, you need to worry about making an entertaining product. That's the whole point of the framework of "action/adventure" in STAR TREK and TOS original series bible. Entertain first. If you do that, then the majority will find it entertaining before moving on.
What about the TNG series bible? It gave rise to one of the most popular eras of Star Trek, ever.
 
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