No freedoms were subverted, a "failed attempt" doesn't qualify as dark in my book.
1984, now that is dark.
Another crazy Admiral doing another crazy thing, this is a regular gimmick for the show dating back to 1-16 "Too Short a Season."
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1984, now that is dark.
That's how it starts. That such an attempt in a supposed utopia is shocking. People might not think so because they know TNG (supposedly) but at the time?No freedoms were subverted, a "failed attempt" doesn't qualify as dark in my book.
1984, now that is dark.
How many had happened at this time in the series?
I've never bought into utopia, so there's absolutely nothing shocking about this to me. It's just an old person thinking they know better than everyone else, trying to force their will onto everyone else. Nothing new to see here, folks.
I don't know, but that kind of stuff happens all the time in real life, so why would I be surprised to see it in the show?
A show that demonstrates a utopia?
Yes, it's shocking. Maybe not to all, but viewed in context it would be. This wasn't meant as reali life but a more evolved humanity.
Now, in our present and history it's a recurrent theme but that's not how TNG treated humanity. It started showing cracks in the facade as forces moved against Picard from within.
It's not about new. It's a darker take to Trek and will lead to things like Section 31, which is considered at extreme odds for Trek's ethos.
Utopia is bullshit, meaning impossible. It's as fantastical as Peter Pan and The Lord of the Rings. I don't buy it. I can buy it in the fictional world of Star Trek, but that's as far as I can go. That said, I still find it extremely irritating each and every time they try to sell Utopian Earth.
Maybe, but there are still numerous examples of corrupt human characters engaged in some seriously messed up activities. Remember that Admiral from S1 aging backwards?
In reality, TNG shows us life on the Enterprise-D. Anything beyond that is just small glimpses.
Section 31 is just CIA in space. I honestly loved it when that was introduced in DS9. When I am examining an episode of a TV show as dark, I'm not looking through the lens of compared to previous episodes. I'm looking through the lens of what's dark in real life.
You do you.
Pointless to continue as we do not have a common frame of reference.
Yeah, this is beyond tedious.
We have a winner..........everyone go OUTSIDE and play until the streetlights come on.
Sigh.
Just because they're an intelligence organization does not mean they are a CIA analogue. Even in the US, there are other intelligence agencies besides the CIA.
You're nitpicking. It's an analogy, don't stroke out, my dude.
Don't stroke out?
Yes, it's an expression, meaning don't take it so seriously.
Depending on where you're from, it can mean "don't suffer a stroke" in North America (classy) or "don't masturbate" in Britain (request denied).
How incredibly in poor taste.
Where I live, it doesn't mean any of that.
Hey, you used an obscure expression, I'm just repeating what Google told me it meant. Or should I have consulted Perplexity like you always do?
It's not obscure where I live. Stroke jokes are commonplace. I asked Perplexity: "If someone is being overly serious and the other person jokingly says, "Don't stroke out, dude," what has been communicated by the stroke expression?"
The answer I got back was, "The expression "Don't stroke out, dude," is a colloquial and informal way of telling someone not to become overly stressed or agitated to the point of having a stroke, which is a serious medical condition where the blood supply to part of the brain is interrupted or reduced, preventing brain tissue from getting oxygen and nutrients. In this context, the speaker is using hyperbole to humorously suggest that the person should calm down and not take things too seriously, implying that excessive stress could lead to a stroke."
Yes, thank you, I know what a stroke is. Three of my grandparents had strokes at various points, so I know even a so called "minor" one can have serious impacts on one's livelihood.
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