Spoilers The Controversial Star Wars Opinion Thread
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Wouldn't that depend on the droid?
I mean, an MSE droid I wouldn't feel all that bad about. Closer to owning a dog.
I mean, an MSE droid I wouldn't feel all that bad about. Closer to owning a dog.
I don't consider that to be a controversial opinion at all. The Jawas capturing R2 and 3PO, putting restraining bolts on them, and selling them, that was all but explicit slavery right out of the gate in the original film. The only daylight between what happened to the droids and literal slavery is that the droids were machines. But then they were made to seem like humans at almost every turn. Even R2's beeps conveyed emotion.
Yeah, the selling part was obvious even when I was a kid. It seems like Luke was the only one who really cared about them like people and friends. Leia was ok but especially Han did not seem to like them. He did not mind leaving 3PO behind as if he were nothing until Leia piped in and 3PO said "typical" too. before he was pulled inside the lift as they were escaping their base in 'ESB'. If its so "typical" why such devotion? 3PO would often tell R2D2 how much Luke did not like him. It was not unheard of for slaves to fight over their masters. But this is not Earth. They seemed to treat them better than Earth treated their slaves in history. As bad as they had it. I only watched the original trilogy and the first prequel, but I saw some clips of more recent SWs stuff and... WOW. Poor taste stuff. Not just the human looking aliens going back again we saw how Jabba treated his droids. They were like waiters and 3PO was a translator because that huge fat slug disposed of the last one for failing. We saw they were also tortured there as well. But Luke did send them there without knowing what was going on. I think that was more to do with his plan and his confidence as a Jedi than him not caring. Or wishful thinking.
And if we go to the source material ( Kakushi-toride no san-akunin ) the R2 and 3PO equivalents are indeed slaves at one point, in that they are prisoners forced to do labor.
Yeah, it really is. But where things get a bit more complicated is that they are programmed machines, and I don't remember if they've ever really addressed just how much free will the Droids really have. Do they really have true sentience and free will or are they just really well programmed?
The closest they ever really came to addressing this is L3 in Solo, but she also seemed to be treated as more of an oddity when it comes to droids.
Sorry, which? Controversial or true?
I don't know.
The R2 droids screaming in pain when they're blown up in TPM seems like the film is trying to tell us that some droids are sentient. Other droids clearly don't have a lot of free will, like the types of battle droids that need a control ship to direct them.
Then in AOTC, Obi-Wan asks Dex rhetorically, "Well, if droids could think, there'd be none of us here, would there?" (Ninja'd, I see.) That sounds like a riff on Dune's Butlerian Jihad, as if something similar might have happened once upon a time in the Republic, or before. Perhaps droids are limited on purpose so they can't get out of control.
I think it's been left open on purpose.
Yeah, she came to mind when I was typing my first post. She's one of my favorite things in Solo.
But why is it stupid?
For the record: Obi-Wan never did own a droid, so his statement to Luke in ANH is correct. R4-P17 and R4-G9 were the property of the Jedi Temple and the Order at-large.
Singular platform can only be one place at a time.
Yeah but it's mobile too so there is that and probably can do hyperspace to get places. But yes one stationary platform once it arrives it's not a great idea
I have a simple response to this and it comes from Stargate:
The Death Star is a weapon of fear. It is not a weapon of war.
Yep.
Krennic is my favorite SW villain. More than Vader.
Krennic is so underrated.
Krennic is a good villain and really wish it was just him and Tarkin in Rogue One with Tarkin getting the final one up in their rivalry.
Vader was unnecessary in Rogue One.
Vader was unnecessary in Rogue One.
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