Oh, he's very popular Ed. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wastoids, dweebies, dickheads - they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude.
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Aging wasn't even the point, I was merely saying an actress playing an 'young avenger' is older than the actress who was an 'avenger'.
Historically young avengers or Teen Titans (DC) has been that, they were younger than the regular Avengers or JL.
The real problem is them being "Young" Avengers to start with, because none of them were teenagers when they "put on the masks", so to speak. They should just call themselves the "Avengers Initiative" or something rather than imply they're a kid team.
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And our point was that it's meaningless to point that out, because the age of an actor in real life has nothing to do with the age of a character within a story. Actors pretend to be something they're not. That's literally their job.
The original Avengers (comics) all skewed old, when I think about it. Banner, Stark, Pym and Blake all held advanced degrees and were established in their fields. Ironically Rogers would be the youngest Avenger after subtracting his time on ice. He's probably in his early to mid twenties. Van Dyne would be around that age, too.
Barton, Stark and Banner are middle-age in the movies as well.
That's what I was trying to say.
When 'young' is an adjective in comicbooks or adjacent media, I automatically start thinking "under 20", a kid team or something similar.
Young for me is 25 or less. Rarely do I think teenager.
For me personally it ruins my immersion.
In The Penguin Collin Farrell is fantastic, but there are actors that naturally look how Farrell was made to look with 40 pounds of prosthetics.
In Prometheus they went through extra make up measures to show Guy Pearce as a 90 year old Peter Weyland.
Recently there was an action movie called Silent Night and it had a deaf character played by actress Sandra Mae Frank. I was pleasantly surprised to know she is acutally deaf in real life.
Actors can play whatever they want but in today's world of extra noise ruining immersion is very easy.
I don't want an American actor playing James Bond, I'd rather an actor with Jewish ancestry play Magneto or an actor with Mongolian ancestry to play Genghis Khan.
But that's just me.
For what it's worth, the title character of Young Frankenstein was not a teenager by any means. He was old enough to be a lecturing physician, and he was played by a 40-year-old Gene Wilder, in contrast to the 31-year-old Colin Clive who played "old" Frankenstein in the original movies. He was Young Frankenstein because he was born later than the Frankenstein being referenced. Similarly, the Young Avengers are younger than the original Avengers. It's relative, not absolute.
I had always assumed the Young was a reference to the Avengers now, not necessarily how old or young they were when they first put the team together. And in that case I think they more than qualify.
And I just looked up Hailey Steinfeld, Iman Vilani, and Dominique Thorne, and Thorn and Steinfeld are 27, and Vilani is 22, which really isn't that old. And is still well within the age range Hollywood tends to use for teenagers.
And I just looked up Hailey Steinfeld, Iman Vilani, and Dominique Thorne, and Thorn and Steinfeld are 27, and Vilani is 22, which really isn't that old. And is still well within the age range Hollywood tends to use for teenagers.
I doubt that they'll be called Young Avengers. Kamala didn't say young Avengers when she recruited Hawkeye, at least I don't remember it that way.
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The movie could be called Young Avengers for branding purposes without the term being used in-story.
But will any of some of these characters still even be young when they get around to making this movie? To me this whole thing does feel like if it will happen it will be a streaming show. Remember their goal is to do 2 movies and 3 shows a year. I think lots of possible movies will be shot down as not being worthy of 1 those 2 slots a year.
Hopefully the score will be by Christopher Young.
With appearances by Sean Young, Keone Young, and Elodie Yung.
With a storyline driven by Jungian psychology.
Eh, I guess, I'm too old for puns. That's something I refuse categorically.
So you are saying you want us to paws on these jokes?
I can't think of any young puns right now.... but i think no matter the name, i believe there was, at some point, an intention to have a younger set of Avengers, even if not called that, to appeal to the next generation. KInda like Disney channel had shows that starred teenagers/young adults for shows that the main audience we younger kids.
Definitely Ms. Marvel & Spider Man, are very "relatable" to my daughters in terms of how they tell the story and the characters, personality wide.
However, i think the buddy chemistry in Hawkeye would have definitely allowed Yelena to be a part of it too. I think depending on the success of Thunderbolts, she could be another character that they want to have all over the MCU
Future success of the MCU will depend on newer generations, such as the one not even born yet when the MCU started, to get excited about it
I do agree it feels like they won't get around to it until they all become middle age Avengers
And for me , that line up could like like this: America, Ms. Marvel, Wiccan, IronHeart, with Shang Chi, SPider Man and Yelena (who, yeah, i know, is just a couple years younger thna Black Widow, but totally plays into the new generation's sensibilities). Not sure if they can sustain more than that
For Older Avengers: Sam, Shuri, Falcon, Dr. Strange and some strong being (maybe Sentinel?). SOrry drawing a blank for the moment.
By Avengers 6, they might phase out Thor and Banner (unless they can get a movie for him)