Why? Not everything is for everyone.
This is no exception. Star Trek having a far more ability to accept individual variations of opinions should be it's strong suite.
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This is no exception. Star Trek having a far more ability to accept individual variations of opinions should be it's strong suite.
Indeed, whatever else I might think of this, I have taken note of the fact it seems to have united Trek fandom in a somewhat positive way. Which I guess isn't nothing. It's just not my cup of tea.
Focussing on the positives I wanna say that my favorite thing about this is just how cool it is to see Robin Curtis as Saavik again. The interview with her that came with this is pretty emotional and really makes me want to somehow see her character’s story continue on Trek. I don't know how, but it would be very cool to have her involved with some future production.
Yeah not really expecting it, but imagining it in my head back since I was a kid.
Yes it’s from this issueAs with so many other bits we've seen, it seems to be sourced from the Early Voyages comic.
This is the way.
BTW, whenever I see the fellow doubling Spock I keep thinking that it's Adam Nimoy.
I sure didn't. Since Kirk mentioned Genesis, I thought it was Genesis that they were at. And I don't know anything about the Enterprise-J.
Yeah he walked a bit funky but it's probably because he's 92...? Sam Witwer only acted as the body double for young Kirk.“It's considered one of the legacy portion of the franchise's greatest fails.” Is that so? I can’t say I’ve personally ever viewed it as something particularly bad, let alone “one of the greatest fails”. Mind you, I was a kid when I first saw Generations and I mostly have very fond memories of liking the movie. Assessing it as an adult it’s not my favorite of the bunch, but I never saw the ending as something that needs rectifying.
But then again, I also agree with you in that they can obviously do what they want, as long as Shatner is on board and the have the money and resources. Can’t say this had much in the way of any story, though. (Not that it needs to have that, considering what it is, but I’m just saying that because you mentioned there should be “the right story” when they attempt something like this.)
Well, I’m not trying to tell anyone how they should enjoy Trek, just saying what I prefer.Let me just say, though: I am someone who’s very interested in Star Trek’s aesthetic and I very much do get a kick out of fans making these kind of flawless recreations of these legendary designs. So I certainly have an appreciation for that aspect. It’s just that I would never want that to be all that new Trek can ever be. First and foremost it’s a TV show for me, an artistic creation, not actual history. And this is why I will always be more interested to see new people being brought on trying to show us their vision of Trek.
Agreed, he was really good in replicating Shatner’s mannerisms. There was just one shot where I felt he walked a little funky …
What’s he doing with his arms?
Pretty sure you are mistaken. Shatner only did voice work for this. In every other way Kirk is Witwer + AI / CGI in this.
When I watched Regeneration, I found that kind of creepy at the same time I found it touching. That Spock (in Regeneration) had facial expressions that I had just never seen on Nimoy's Spock. I couldn't figure out how they did that, until I understood the prosthetics and digitalization process.
I think it works better here, but I have to say the whole video is confusing or mysterious in some ways. And then seeing the "outtakes" or other images, it looks like they shot a bunch of scenes and then tried to reconstruct a story around them. I mean, was Kirk there for a marriage ceremony between Spock and Saavik (perhaps pre STVI?). And if they were going off of Vulcan's Heart, we know they were married much, much later (not that Vulcan's Heart is canon). Personally, I'm cool with them being married earlier.
With Yor there, are we to assume that Saavik and her son have already said their goodbyes to Spock (Yor took them there) and now Kirk has his opportunity?
Is this Spock's vision?
Saavik looks older than Spock, so did this happen a long time ago? Or is it in the Nexxus, where time doesn't matter?
Anyway, so many questions. But I loved it anyway.
What role does Colt play in all of this? I've seen her wander through several of these OTOY / Roddenberry archive videos.
Saavik is so beautiful it hurts.
I saw something earlier where the headline stated that Shatner was his own body double apart from young Kirk. I didn't read the article though.
I read an analysis/theory that her involvement might be due to a story (in a comic possibly) where she interacted with an alien device and that Spock gains knowledge of the future when they mind melded.
After a couple days, I'm still not sure how I feel about this.
On one hand, it's extremely impressive what they've managed to do. Especially the portrayal of Kirk by Sam Witmer. He had all of Shatner's mannerisms down to a t.
I'll even admit to getting emotional at the reunion of Kirk and Spock, my two favorite characters. The idea that Spock passed away with Kirk by his side, somehow, is a heartwarming thought.
The rest of it and the logistics behind it? It all seems confusing for the sake of being confusing.
Plus, I've always been of the opinion that sometimes, when a character dies, they should actually stay dead. Death has no meaning if we keep resurrecting people.
With the near sole exception of Spock coming back in Search for Spock, it's never been done terribly well. Nevermind that it's a recent trend in the franchise to bring back dead characters. They couldn't resist bringing back Data, twice. To say nothing of Q being dead for about 30 seconds.
Kirk is my favorite fictional character. I named my son after him. But he's been dead for 30 years. Did we really need to bring him back? Canonically or not?
It was admittedly good to see Saavik again, guess she's not on Lower Decks. Also nice that they went with the old deleted plot of her being pregnant. I always wished they'd kept that in the films.
Beyond that? I dunno. It's all fine as a nostalgic gimmick and not much else.
On one hand, it's extremely impressive what they've managed to do. Especially the portrayal of Kirk by Sam Witmer. He had all of Shatner's mannerisms down to a t.
I'll even admit to getting emotional at the reunion of Kirk and Spock, my two favorite characters. The idea that Spock passed away with Kirk by his side, somehow, is a heartwarming thought.
The rest of it and the logistics behind it? It all seems confusing for the sake of being confusing.
Plus, I've always been of the opinion that sometimes, when a character dies, they should actually stay dead. Death has no meaning if we keep resurrecting people.
With the near sole exception of Spock coming back in Search for Spock, it's never been done terribly well. Nevermind that it's a recent trend in the franchise to bring back dead characters. They couldn't resist bringing back Data, twice. To say nothing of Q being dead for about 30 seconds.
Kirk is my favorite fictional character. I named my son after him. But he's been dead for 30 years. Did we really need to bring him back? Canonically or not?
It was admittedly good to see Saavik again, guess she's not on Lower Decks. Also nice that they went with the old deleted plot of her being pregnant. I always wished they'd kept that in the films.
Beyond that? I dunno. It's all fine as a nostalgic gimmick and not much else.
By the way, this is the Lost cue that Michael Giacchino’s music for this short very much reminds me of. Sounds like only a handful of notes changed. Which I’m totally fine with; it’s a pretty powerful piece of music and it works very well both in Lost and here in that final Kirk and Spock scene.
What more does it need to be?
I really don't know.
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