Which episode or movie was this established in? It seems to me that you are making an assumption here not in evidence.
edit to add: I mean, it's Starfleet. Of course the thing would be over-engineered...
Starship Museums: why?
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edit to add: I mean, it's Starfleet. Of course the thing would be over-engineered...
From DS9: Emissary
So at least we know a space station (albeit a Cardassian one) can be moved a lot faster thanks to 'subspace fields'. As to whether they could get it up to warp speed, I don't know.
So at least we know a space station (albeit a Cardassian one) can be moved a lot faster thanks to 'subspace fields'. As to whether they could get it up to warp speed, I don't know.
The Search for Spock where it appears with no warp drive and is obviously a "space station."
The way the episode plays out, it's implied that there is a high risk the station "breaks apart like an egg," meaning it's not intended to fly across the solar system in a day.
How is that evidence of anything? It was in Earth orbit in STIII, and in orbit of some other planet in PIC. It got to that other planet somehow. You seem to be the only person who's hung up on how that method would have been.
None of which answers the question of whether it was designed and engineered to be moved at warp. I see it as akin to how ships aren't land vehicles but are designed and engineered to be lifted out of the water.
No, indeed, but it shows that it's doable in principle.
Also, stations could perhaps be designed with this in mind (the Cardassian station obviously wasn't) - e.g. with stronger field emitters, and stronger Structural Integrity Fields or whatever gizmos it'd need. It might be possible to get such 'optimised' stations up to low warp - though they'll probably never soar around with Voyager's warp 9.975 'sustainable top cruising speed' .
Across a solar system, sure. Nothing on screen to say it can be warped away, except PIC S3 fan-fiction-level writing.
Warp drive is just a matter of scale, that's all. Trek repeatedly shows that going bigger is always possible.
And Stargate Atlantis has a city ship called, um, Atlantis. So with enough power and capability it's possible.
That's the beauty of science.
Par for the course in this Season.Across a solar system, sure. Nothing on screen to say it can be warped away, except PIC S3 fan-fiction-level writing.
I'm not addressing scale regarding starships. I'm addressing not designed with warp drive in mind and when that is the case, scale does matter, because the bigger the space station, the more fragile it will be.
In Stargate: Atlantis, the cityship was designed with interplanetary and hyperspace flight in mind from the word go. Spacedock was not.
Even two months isn't an outrageously slow time-table for moving a "fixed" object under most circumstances, it's just that they were on a time-crunch on DS9. With over a hundred years between when we last saw Spacedock and PIC, it could've been moved from Earth to Athan at that unacceptably slow speed, depending on how close the systems are (and they're probably pretty close, for a shuttle to make the trip in a couple hours, tops).
Did you design these fake structures? No? Then how are you privy to how they are moved around?
How do you know there’s no warp drive?
Ton of assumptions about what Spacedock’s capabilities are and aren’t. Without a shred of in universe proof.
Q got bored. So he opened up a moving company.
Did you see warp nacelles? I didn't.
From an engineering standpoint, the larger a structure, the easier it is to come down.
Same logic would apply to a space station that's not designed for warp and has no nacelles.
As for Atlantis... it's literally explained in the TV show.
And? You're assuming something, that Spacedock isn't/can't be "x", with no actual evidence. The Reliant doesn't have a visible deflector dish, yet is still a warp capable vessel.
There is no down, in space.
And, considering we can take objects apart at the quantum level, and then put them back together, again. Moving a large object, even at warp, should be child's play.
Anyway back to a Fleet Museum:
It comes from the episode Relics at the earliest (following is from memory):
Picard looks around the Enterprise 1701 Bridge: Hm. Constitution Class.
Scotty: Ay, you know her?
Picard: There's one like her at the fleet museum.
Which apparently now is the 'New Jersey'. Terrible name for it, but whatever, it does expand the verse and fleet a bit - not everything was done by the 1701s!
And it hearkens back to the 'Starfleet is totally not the USN/Navy of the UFP' thing since the beginning. While the USN doesn't have a singular fleet museum, Museum ships exist aplenty, and its just something we do: pride in our history, our institution, our achievements, to educate the future generations on what was achieved and what could be done. Many institutions, military or not, do this, have little museums.
Why wouldn't Starfleet have one? They're all about exploring, science, new phenomenea, human/alien achievement and diplomacy, having a Museum would be one of the least surprising things ever.
It comes from the episode Relics at the earliest (following is from memory):
Picard looks around the Enterprise 1701 Bridge: Hm. Constitution Class.
Scotty: Ay, you know her?
Picard: There's one like her at the fleet museum.
Which apparently now is the 'New Jersey'. Terrible name for it, but whatever, it does expand the verse and fleet a bit - not everything was done by the 1701s!
And it hearkens back to the 'Starfleet is totally not the USN/Navy of the UFP' thing since the beginning. While the USN doesn't have a singular fleet museum, Museum ships exist aplenty, and its just something we do: pride in our history, our institution, our achievements, to educate the future generations on what was achieved and what could be done. Many institutions, military or not, do this, have little museums.
Why wouldn't Starfleet have one? They're all about exploring, science, new phenomenea, human/alien achievement and diplomacy, having a Museum would be one of the least surprising things ever.
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